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[edit]The lead of this article neglects to mention what the Geodetic Survey is. It probably shouldn't start off with history. —EncMstr (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, but the history also defines what it was as the responsibilities changed. It was many things over that history, as seen by the weights and measurements role. In my opinion there has to be more work done in defining what it was before a good summary can be written as what is there now reminds me of those blind men describing an elephant. Palmeira (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Ship's prefixes
[edit]This subject is discussed as it relates to USC&GS vessels -- see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships/Archive 9#85 CSS = Coast Survey Ship?. This may be plausibly relevant to some future reader. --Tenmei (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- The Survey did not use such rigid prefixes. In modern times we've seen such naval like prefixes applied to ships that have been given hull numbers. That was not the case in the old Survey as demonstrated by the life ring in the photo here and in all formal reports where ships were described as "schooner (NAME)" or "steamer (NAME)" without prefix or hull designation. Where a written "title" is given the format is usually U. S. Coast and Geodetic Survey Ship that would abbreviate as USC&GSS, one occasionally seen in official documents particularly in the Survey's later years. We have modern ideas of naval ships' identification pushing back into other governmental organizations when they had no such convention. It is entirely a modern convenience without historical accuracy. Changing it to the authentic would increase accuracy, but probably be as difficult here as getting writers to quit applying "USS" to every Navy vessel whether commissioned or not. Palmeira (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Current responsibilities
[edit]The article says no more than a few words regarding the Geodetic Survey's current responsibilities and activities.
- If the actual role, history and accomplishments of the Coast Survey and the later Coast and Geodetic Survey's long history is done justice that should very probably be split from the modern organization now within NOAA. Both are important enough--and different enough--to warrant stand alone and linked pieces. Trying to cover both adequately in one piece would make for a very long single piece and not do justice to either. Palmeira (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
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Split U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey history
[edit]The United States Coast and Geodetic Survey was a long-lived agency with its own history, and it was the ancestor of a number of modern-day agencies and organizations in addition to the National Geodetic Survey. Including its history in the National Geodetic Survey article also was disproportionate, making the National Geodetic Survey article mostly about a different agency that was not the ancestor of it alone. It made sense to split out the Coast and Geodetic Survey into its own article. So I did. Mdnavman (talk) 22:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Mdnavman
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