Talk:Thinkfree Office

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Neutrality and undue weight

While this article isn't entirely promotional, it lends undue weight to features of the subject, often excessively listing random factoids. It mentions no criticism or negative reviews, even when the cited sources are not entirely positive. [1] Toadspike [Talk] 13:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Juanma281984 Please read my comments above and try to improve the article. It is currently too promotional. Toadspike [Talk] 13:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some changes and removed a large portion of POV. It definitely needs some more clean-up and development, though. WhoAteMyButter (🌷_talk│🌻^contribs) 06:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, it looks a lot better now. I'm not sure when to remove the UPE, NPOV, and V templates, but I think it's good enough now that we can take them off. Toadspike [Talk] 06:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I've removed them and replaced with a single {{Needs more references}}. Also, this may be eligible to be merged with Hancom Office. They both seem to cover the same topic. WhoAteMyButter (🌷_talk│🌻^contribs) 06:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is advisable to reconsider proposals to merge products that are managed by different companies, under various licenses, and cater to diverse markets, as these products have distinct identities. Maintaining that these are the same product may no longer reflect the current situation. We should ensure that Wikipedia updates align with the latest information, focusing on recent developments rather than past configurations. For instance, terms like "calc" were historically associated with Hancom and do not pertain to the modern Thinkfree Office. It's important to ensure that updates are accurate and reflective of the current facts Longtailmonkey (talk) 05:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please clarify if there are any other reasons to advocate for merging the pages for Hancom Office and ThinkFree Office? These products not only differ in their structure and licenses but are also managed by separate companies Longtailmonkey (talk) 05:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Longtailmonkey Currently this article cites no sources when discussing the differences between Thinkfree Office and other Hancom products (here). If you can find reliable sources to back up your claims that these are entirely different products that deserve to have separate articles, your arguments will become more persuasive.

You seem to be a single-purpose account. If you have any conflict of interest with Hancom/Thinkfree, I advise that you declare it. Toadspike [Talk] 12:31, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think these should be merged because:

They are ultimately owned by the same company: Hancom purchased Thinkfree in Nov 2003 and claims ownership rights at this licensing help page. Hancom also hosts the Thinkfree Office 2018 help docs.
WP:DUP - They seem to cover the same actual products: both are online, (originally had unverified claim to be in Java&C++), office software, proprietary, Hancom and Thinkfree use the same assets, including the icons and their placement.

WhoAteMyButter (🌷_talk│🌻^contribs) 23:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I support this merge. Considering Hancom Office cites zero sources, merging the two would actually be a significant improvement to that article. Toadspike [Talk] 08:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the detailed insights shared on the page.

However, I would like to clarify a few points regarding Thinkfree NEO, which is referenced as an online office suite. Thinkfree NEO is not an online platform but rather a PC-installed model and is currently discontinued.

Holding a license for this product by Hancom does not imply that Thinkfree, the online office suite, operates under the same model, which seems to be a common misconception.

Furthermore, it's important to note that Hancom does pay a licensing fee to use Thinkfree Office, including other services. Longtailmonkey (talk) 09:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. While I agree that these are two separate products, Hancom Office is liable to be deleted in its current form for not showing that it is notable. When briefly searching for sources, I only found this [2] (though I would perform a more thorough search if I were going to nominate it for deletion). If you could find a few more reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Hancom Office, then we may not need to merge these articles. Toadspike [Talk] 09:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You speak like you're a company representative. Do you have a citation for any the claims you are making? If not, where are you getting this information? WhoAteMyButter (🌷_talk│🌻^contribs) 18:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]