Talk:The Shackled City Adventure Path
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On Spoilers
[edit]Just a heads up for anyone tweaking the spoilers section: Even the individual adventure titles can be spoilers. So I suggest leaving the individual adventure titles in a section labelled spoiler. This is why (for example) I don't name the adventure added to the hardcover book in the introduction.
For an example of a spoiler (SPOILER!), as a player only up to "The Demonskar Legacy", knowing that the next chapter is "Test of the Smoking Eye" is a big deal as the Smoking Eye is a concept revealed in "Zenith Trajectory" that I was (up to today) unaware we would be encountering again. Indeed, it suggests that Zenith might actually be a prophet, and not (just) insane.
Alan De Smet | Talk 16:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- For anyone who's come across this talk page in the decade and a half since 2007, see WP:SPOILERS for an explanation of current practice. V2Blast (talk) 07:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Set in Greyhawk?
[edit]The text currently reads that the Cauldron is "nominally" set in the World of Greyhawk. I'm not sure that's correct. I downloaded the PDF of the introduction from the Paizo Web site, and that says: "The Shackled City Adventure Path is not set in any particular campaign world. It uses deities from the core D&D pantheon, and some proper names from the Greyhawk campaign setting, but the campaign itself has been designed for easy integration into any Dungeons & Dragons campaign." (Page 5). Perhaps the wording in the article should be adjusted? Fairsing 23:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- SCAP appears to have originally been set in a "generic" setting. However, about midway through the AP, someone decided to set the series in Greyhawk (there's a reference to the Amedio Jungle in one of the adventures (perhaps in the "Demonskar Legacy"? I'm not sure). In addition, when Paizo released its Greyhawk map, the cities of Cauldron & Sasserine were plainly noted in the southwestern portion. There are also references to Cauldron, Sasserine, & Redgorge in the Age of Worms AP, & the Savage Tide AP begins in Sasserine. Since both of the later APs are so heavily saturated with Greyhawk references and history, and have clear connections to the first AP, one can safely assume that Cauldron is, at least, "nominally" set in GH.--Robbstrd 02:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for clarifying. Fairsing 06:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem.--Robbstrd 08:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for clarifying. Fairsing 06:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone just tried to remove all references to Greyhawk from the article without comment. I restored these. While it would be good to have a detailed discussion of the late shift of setting, the hardcover version is clearly set in Greyhawk, including maps that refernece many Greyhawk locations; Greyhawk deities and other powers; etc. It's hard to separate many references to the core setting from Greyhawk because they are the same on so many levels, however, Sasserine, the Amedio Jungle and the Hellfurnaces are not part of the core setting. Therefore, given that they are mentioned repeatedly and early in the hardcover, we should be clear about what setting they refer to in the article. -Harmil 23:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- I know this is quite a bit after the fact, but, I wanted to make a helpful clarification in the event anyone tries the "Removing Greyhawk from the Article" thing again.
- While I'm fairly sure Sasserine may've been a new place for the adventure, the Amedio Jungle and Hellfurnaces absolutely were in the "core" world. For example, the 3rd Edition DMG and the "splat books", such as Sword and Fist, Tome and Blood, Defenders of the Faith', etc. had very exact language in them regarding the world in which D&D was set. They included specific statements in the intros of the books delineating which world was core in case there was ambiguity. Additionally, the D&D Gazetteer was very clear on the topic of defining what the "core world" was. The D&D Gazetteer included both the Amedio and Hellfurnaces - on p22 and p24, respectively.
The "core" world is very clearly defined as being Greyhawk. -- IcarusATB (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)Sword and Fist, p4. wrote: "When place names are given, these names refer to the D&D world, as defined in the D&D Gazetteer."
D&D Gazeteer, Ch.1, p.2 wrote: "This is the core world for D&D game products … The D&D game setting is located on the sphere of Oerth, most specifically on the continent of Oerik, in its easternmost portion called the Flanaess.
3.5 DMG, p.6 also calls "… the Greyhawk® setting the standard D&D campaign setting …".
- I know this is quite a bit after the fact, but, I wanted to make a helpful clarification in the event anyone tries the "Removing Greyhawk from the Article" thing again.
Publication Date
[edit]I believe the publication date was 25-Jul-2005. I don't see that in the main article, and am not sure where it goes so I didn't edit it in myself. RainOfSteel 18:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Overly wide sidebar
[edit]There's no reason for a sidebar to be that wide, and the over-scaling of this image is only one good reason that it should never happen that way. -Harmil 18:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- I reduced the image to 200 pix.--Robbstrd 00:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)