Talk:The Grey Album

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Just A Bit Of Clarification

Does anyone have a source that says track 11 was a hoax? I know I've read this before but there is no source in here and I can't find it anywhere else. Jeffler 12:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean "a hoax"? It's certainly a real track, but the backwards messages are Danger Mouse's creation and certainly didn't appear on the original album. --Wifidelity 11:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colbert

The Danger Mouse page claims that Colbert mentioned Danger Mouse on December 12, but this article claims it was the 11. Which is it? MafiaCapo 21:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Legality

See http://www.eff.org/IP/grey_tuesday.php for a discussion on which claims EMI actually can lay to the Beatles' portfolio.

Track 11?

I work at the campus radio station, and we apparently have the radio edits of the Grey Album. I noticed on that case track 11 is known as "Lucifer 9," something not seen on any other listing I've found. Can someone back me up on this? --Billfred 18:06, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Lucifer 9 and Interlude are the same song, I think.

Caesar 19:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try playing the track backwards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.54.89 (talk) 00:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mixes?

Could somebody who knows fill out the track listing by associating each Grey Album track with the tracks sampled for it? — Gwalla | Talk 19:27, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Done. - Vague | Rant 01:37, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Awesome. You win an Internet! — Gwalla | Talk 08:05, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"Can You Take Me Back"

"Can You Take Me Back" is not officially a song. The fragment on The Beatles is simply part of the "Cry Baby Cry" track. As such, I don't know whether it can be said that "Can You Take Me Back" is being sampled, since, officially, it doesn't exist. Whether the title itself is even accurate cannot be said, let alone he citation of it as a sampled song. - Vague | Rant 08:50, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Still, in the literature it is often referred to as an individual -yet not credited- song, too. (E.g. Quantick: "Revolution - The Making of The Beatle's White Album", New York 2002, pp. 150 et seq.) --Smartlad 17:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

-- Perhaps it would be better to use "Can You Take Me Back" as the title; the fragment could just as validly be regarded as a lead-in to "Revolution 9" as a lead-out from "Cry Baby Cry". Or both, in fact. See http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/awp/cytmb.html

But when you play the tracks, it is officially at the end of the Cry Baby Cry chat, it's just a strange outro to it. I think it should be referred to by the track name "Cry Baby Cry"

I agree, as Danger Mouse refered to it as "Cry Baby Cry", too, in an interview about the album. --Fritz S. (Talk) 19:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Grey Album artwork

Does anyone have the official artwork for the Grey Album? Is there a way for people to know if they have an official copy. There were ONLY 10,000 copies printed.

BPM?

Does anyone know the BPMs for the black album songs? They should be listed so more people can make their own mixes of the black album.

Programs like mixmeister do it for you, though sometimes imperfectly. Family Guy Guy 03:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of remixing the Grey Album, are the instrumental tracks available anywhere online? I mean, people could try to reproduce them by taking the samples from the White Album again, but having the original Grey Album sample/loops out there would make it easier for amateurs to put other lyrics on top of the exact same beats. (example: Collision Course)

This page might explain the difficulty with getting the same samples:

"And, coincidentally, the tracks which seem to present Danger Mouse with the most problems are both Kanye West productions, though neither is altogether intolerable; "Lucifer" and "Encore" are two of the weaker ones on The Grey Album, particularly the latter, where the vocals and the music from "Glass Onion" seem to be just a split second out-of-step." [1]

In trying to recreate parts of the Grey Album, I am running into the same problems! --Nerd42 (talk) 21:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

McCartney's Opinion

Does anyone know what Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and Yoko Ono think about The Grey Album?

Caesar 19:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dedication?

At the beginning of the first track, somebody says something about "I want to dedicate this recording to" something something "history in the making" something something "our generation". Who is speaking, what are they saying exactly and when was that first said? Is it Danger Mouse who is talking there? Or is that a Beatles quote? --69.243.255.130 00:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's also in the song's original version from Jay-Z's Black Album (lyrics), so it's neither from DM nor from the Beatles. I'm not sure if it's sampled from somewhere else though... --Fritz S. (Talk) 09:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His Wig?

"flinging his wig off"?....I've watched this video several times, and not once did I notice John Lennon and/or the fellow portraying him "flinging his wig off". John Lennon was neither bald, nor balding. The Beatles' moptops were real. (later edit...) okay, when I looked closer, I did see what appeared to be a wig come off the dancer portraying John Lennon -- he didn't "fling it off", however. It fell off. --Mark Alfred 17:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grey Tuesday

Should there be a seperate article dedicated to Grey Tuesday, or is the redirect and subarticle enough information? Just something to think about. Diablomarcus 20:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Track 12: "My 1st Song" AND "My First Song"

The listed title of track 12 is different on the LP and CD releases. You can see some images at discogs here:

On the cover art of the LP release, track 12 is titled "My 1st Song", see it here: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=651575

On the CD inlay for the CD release, track 12 is titled "My First Song", see it here: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=330530

71.204.160.206 19:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grey Video

Is it really necessary or helpful to the article to have a play by play commentary of the video? Wouldn't it just be more efficient to have an external link to the YouTube video? Diablomarcus 16:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is link to youtube at external links. If you mean that there should be link in the paragraph of The Gray Video then help yourself, but i am not fan of the external links in the article. My personal opinnion is that external links and article text should not be mixed, even though it is not happening with this article. --Zache 17:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other Samples

The list of samples has a few non-beatles samples that I'm sure weren't there before. I'm almost positive that they're not there, so unless someone proves otherwise, I'll delete them --Wifidelity (talk) 04:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Used on BBC TV

On June 6th 2008 the BBC used part of "Encore" from this album in Alexei Sayle's Liverpool to accompany pictures of the Toxteth riots - which is quite clever when you think about it (Liverpool plus black street culture). But how did/do they go about getting copyright clearance for a record that doesn't legally exist? Is this the BBC's new way of saving money...?

That said, a couple of minutes later they did actually use "Glass Onion" itself.

Category: Jay-Z

Is there any reason this would not be in the Jay-Z category? I'm adding that category; If anyone has a rationale not to please let me know. KConWiki (talk) 05:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:The Grey Album/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

WPBeatles:

I am not totally convinced this belongs here but it does seem to fit category:The Beatles bootlegs I guess. The article seems relatively poorly structured although I can't say quite why. There is a pending proposal to merge it with The Grey Album which has more info on the legal controversy and ramifications. I think the merge might be controversial, but it seems the way to go. I wish it wasn't in our area at all! Rather it was someone else's problem... Smile. Need to check if Grey Album is in the album list, I guess... -- Lar 12 Mar 2006
I think it's one that belongs in the category but which is outside our project's scope for management, personally. Good album though. -- Steve 12 Mar 2006

Last edited at 20:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 08:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)