Talk:The Darkness Series
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POV & Soapboxing removed
[edit]I saw a few instances of one or more editor's personal POV and soapboxing in this otherwise very well written article and removed them. Jon 15:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Put Characters in a separate article?
[edit]This article is getting very long. Perhaps it would be best to split off the character details into a separate article and just leave a link to it here?Lisiate 23:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
subjectivity
[edit]The statement, "Though the reader would later forget it, the first of many women in the series to get raped by invading soldiers is an Algarvian raped by a Kaunian (Jelgavan) officer, and the reader's sympathy is wholly with her and the revenge she exacts," along with other portions of the article, seems somewhat subjective. I am removing the first clause. --Amanaplanacanalpanama 05:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, I'm not convinced that this article isn't largely the original interperitation of an editor. --Amanaplanacanalpanama 05:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Intodarkness.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Split tag
[edit]This article needs to be accessed from a disam page or split into separate articles. Way way way too long for a subject such as this. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Ideas for Improving Article
[edit]Split the character section to form its own article.Remove the book by book summary and use plot summaries for their own articlesGet rid of the unsourced OR (see WP:OR).
Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 17:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm pretty much finished with the work I have been doing on this article. I realize that I probably pissed a few people off, but Wikipedia has clear guidelines about what to add to article and I tried to keep a lot of the work while getting rid of speculation. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 18:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
remove silly fact tag
[edit]I just removed a number of [citation needed] tags because they were patently stupid. Even without being a scholar of any great merit or a specialist of WWII, the equivalences between Derlavai countries, or the languages attributed to them by Turtledove, and the real world equivalents was obvious, or became so once pointed out. I don't know who put all these tags, but that person needs read on WWII, and/or read the books themselves, there's a degree down to which facts just stand, and can be corroborated only by checking for oneself. I sure wondered where Turtledove had dragged his Kaunian names from until I rondomly learned stuff about the Baltic states, and found names that matched. --Svartalf (talk) 21:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Facts that may be obvious to some are not always obvious to all, that is why Wikipedia requires sources to verify the facts. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 01:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Seriously, those things are worthy of explanation, but just what creditable sources do you expect to be there for quotation? It's not like Turtledove was the subject of quotable academic works, so I don't expect any sources available to be quotable as per fact verification policy. Also, I must insist that to anybody with the proper cultural background, those things are obvious and not even under dispute. so just what quotations and verifications would be acceptable? Not that I'm any shakes at quoting anything, but I can try and look. --Svartalf (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have already found several sources that back up the statements made by the article, so its not impossible and I hope to find more later. What is important is to avoid original research and proper sources will defeat any accusations of original research and prevent possible edit wars. Also I point out that a "proper cultural background" is a matter of opinion and does not prevent using sources. I find that its best to always write a Wikipedia article assuming the audience knows nothing of the topic because making assumptions about what is obvious can lead to problems. Furthermore, good research may actually point out that the things that are "obvious and not even under dispute" could be wrong. Not saying that those statements left to be cited are wrong, but its better safe then sorry. I'm glad to hear you will be looking for sources too. If you have any problems adding them just put links on the talk page and I will do it. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 15:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Also there is no reason why this article could not become a Good or Featured Article someday, and the criteria for both grades require sources. See World War Z, an article I was able to promote to Good Article status, for an example. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 15:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Seriously, those things are worthy of explanation, but just what creditable sources do you expect to be there for quotation? It's not like Turtledove was the subject of quotable academic works, so I don't expect any sources available to be quotable as per fact verification policy. Also, I must insist that to anybody with the proper cultural background, those things are obvious and not even under dispute. so just what quotations and verifications would be acceptable? Not that I'm any shakes at quoting anything, but I can try and look. --Svartalf (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
After The Downfall
[edit]This newish book by Harry apparently has unicorns in it. Is it also set in the Darkness world? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- No. It is a seperate universe. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Futter it. Thanks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Name of the article?
[edit]Amazon calls this the World at War series. Is there an official name?
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