Talk:The Best Years (story)

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Did you know... that Willa Cather's final story, The Best Years, contains references to her previously published novels?

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The result was: promoted by Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Willa Cather's final story, "The Best Years", contains "keepsakes" from each of her published novels? Source: [1] Quote: "She carefully weaves into "The Best Years" a phrase, image, or keepsake from each of her twelve novels and from the three great short stories of Obscure Destinies"
- ALT1:... that Willa Cather's final story, "The Best Years", was based on her teacher? Source: Willa Cather: a pictorial memoir. Quote: "In "The Best Years" Lesley's teacher, Evangeline Knightly, is a portrait of one of Willa Cather's own teachers, Mrs. Eva King Case, who, she said, was the first person she had loved outside her family"
- ALT2:... that Willa Cather's final story, The Best Years, contains references to her previously published novels?"

Created by Urve (talk). Self-nominated at 03:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC). Forgot to bold, fixed! Urve (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks largely GTG to me. In terms of the article content, it is new enough (created 26 Jan/nom 2 Feb), long enough (2516 chars) and within policy (no obvious NPOV, RS, VER or CLOP issues; and no remaining TONE issues). In terms of the creator/QPQ, nominator looks to be exempt. In terms of the main hook, while it is short enough, interesting and verifiably supported by the refs, I wonder whether the word "keepsakes" would be better replaced with a word that doesn't require quotes or definition. Something like:

"... that Willa Cather's final story, "The Best Years", contains contains references to her previously published novels?"

If this could be reviewed, I'd have no problem recommending for promotion to next step. Otherwise, while perhaps less interesting, ALT2 is fine as it is. Guliolopez (talk) 16:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good point. Unfortunately the source is hedging, and chose not to say that there are references to each of her other stories, but instead some kind of image or phrase that's lifted from them. I feel like that's close enough to the word reference, but maybe it's not. If you also feel like it's close enough in light of that, then ALT2 sounds good to me (after removing the duplicate "contains"). Urve (talk) 23:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Urve. So, if what we've got are the following, then I'd personally favour promoting ALT2. If you want to update the original nom (perhaps by striking so only any consensus hook is "left") then I'll update my note, and it'll also help when the promoting editor comes to review/promote to the next step. Cheers! Guliolopez (talk) 10:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

HOOK:... that Willa Cather's final story, The Best Years, contains "keepsakes" from each of her published novels?
ALT1:... that Willa Cather's final story, The Best Years, was based on her teacher?
ALT2:... that Willa Cather's final story, The Best Years, contains references to her previously published novels?"

Thanks - I think I've done what I think you mean (struck ALT0 and ALT1, added ALT2 to original comment). If I've made a mistake, let me know. Appreciate your help on this. Urve (talk) 11:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All looks good to me. ALT2 is good to go. Guliolopez (talk) 12:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]