Talk:Tata (king of Awan)

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Tata was not Persian, he could be Awan king, Elam king, etc. Other names need to be listed: Scheil 1931 uses Ta-a-ar, for example. Викидим (talk) 06:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AnnGWik: Викидим (talk) 06:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Викидим Indeed Tata was not Persian. This page was an old redirect created back in 2010 and it was linked to in an old revision for the List of Elamite kings here (http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=List_of_Elamite_kings&oldid=476026046). I figured that I could use the redirect to create an article for this particular king as I did with the other first three Awanite kings named on the Susanian Dynastic List and the two Awanite kings named on the Sumerian King List. I was actually planning to continue working on these articles and hoping that others would join in. I was also planning to create articles for each and every one of the kings named on the Susanian Dynastic List including those of the Shimashki dynasty and hopefully be able to develop some sort of continuity working my way up to the Sukkalmah dynasty and beyond. If you feel that these articles are not helpful: please tell me now. Thank you. AnnGWik (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(1) I have no objections about the subject(s) at all. Kings definitely deserve their place in history (and encyclopedia) as long as there is WP:SIGCOV, so some non-trivial text can be written about them. My main concern here is the article title, as it is currently very misleading. IMHO, it makes sense to simply WP:MOVE the article to a title wit better disambiguation. (2) Again IMHO, if the articles will stay as-is (with essentially the only information being "X was preceded by Y and succeeded by Z", they will eventually be WP:MERGEd into the Awan dynasty (or simply WP:BLARed, as this information is already present there), so expanding the articles is essential. (3) Articles need WP:CATEGORY added. Most likely either Category:Antediluvian Sumerian kings, Category:Elamite kings, Category:Awan dynasty, or Category:Sumerian kings would fit.

Items #2, #3 are common for all freshly added kings from the SKL. Викидим (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replace with a redirect?

The article Awan dynasty appears to have all the same information in the convenient tabular form. Is there anything here that is not in the dynasty article and cannot be placed in the said table? If not, perhaps, the article should be WP:BLARed? Pinging @AnnGWik: Викидим (talk) 07:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Tata (Persian King)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Tata (Persian King) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 13 § Tata (Persian King) until a consensus is reached. Викидим (talk) 21:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]