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Sources
[edit]- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1669211/kelly-clarkson-stronger-album-release-date.jhtml
- http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2011/08/17/2011-08-17_kelly_clarkson_announces_new_album_stronger_out_oct_25_single_mr_know_it_all_due.html?r=entertainment
- http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2011/08/new-kelly-clarkson-single-to-debut-aug-30-album-coming-in-october/1
- http://www.billboard.com/news/kelly-clarkson-returns-with-stronger-album-1005318832.story
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1667029/kelly-clarkson-songs-leak.jhtml
- http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20189239,00.html
- http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/05/06/kelly-clarkson-leak-tedder/
- http://www.gigwise.com/news/64865/Kelly-Clarkson-Suffers-Album-Setback-As-50-Songs-Leak-Online
Feel free to add more! --Another Believer (Talk) 00:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]This article is in severe work of editing; it is out of date and needs a 'mop up' in how it is written in certain areas. If you have the time and notice any flaws then edit it to help improve this article. Lovepickle (talk) 18:36, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Good article?
[edit]This article is looking pretty good. Does anyone have ambitions to nominate for Good article status? --Another Believer (Talk) 17:52, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- ^ i second this motion. Though as a guide we don't normally nominate an album article until the artist is releasing their next album. This is because more singles could be released and the album could be re-released etc which would mean new information becomes available or information becomes available which could change the nature of the article (e.g. an unsuccessful album could become successful after a re-release). Until the album is completely unfinished it is probably unwise to consider GA status. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 18:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've not heard of this "guide" before. Articles can always be updated. As long as the article is stable and meets GA criteria, no reason to wait around for possible additions. I encourage a significant contributor to the article to go for the gold!... er... green (symbol). :) --Another Believer (Talk) 21:59, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- The above was just my experience. I've had a number of album articles in the past declined because the subject was deemed too knew for the reason given above. Its just something to be aware of. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 23:12, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've not heard of this "guide" before. Articles can always be updated. As long as the article is stable and meets GA criteria, no reason to wait around for possible additions. I encourage a significant contributor to the article to go for the gold!... er... green (symbol). :) --Another Believer (Talk) 21:59, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Album ratings
[edit]Nuetrality doesnt need to be explained. I copy-edited and improved the prose, and my revision of the ratings template reflected the proportion at Metacritic, which was significant enough to regurgitate its score in the template when it's already elaborated on in the section's prose first two sentences. The Boston Globe is not more notable than The Independent, and this template is called "Album ratings", i.e. scores, so subjective labels such as "favorable" add nothing that isnt established in the prose. The template is meant to be an optional suplement to the necessary prose (MOS:ALBUM#Critical reception). Dan56 (talk) 05:04, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Your edits do need to be explained if you expect other editors to know why you made those edits. The proportion at Metacritic was already reflected by the reviews that have been located in the article for a while. The Boston Globe, The New York Times and The Washington Post are more notable than The Independent, Now and Sputnikmusic and subjective labels add as much to article as star ratings. Now that the issue is being discussed it should go back to the previous version until there is consensus for the changes. Aspects (talk) 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- The past is not an excuse to prevent improvements, (wasnt the poorly written prose there "for a while", yet that didnt need consensus to be improved?) and I'm not going into a subjective discussion on the notability of publications who did not rate the album. The ratings template is for ratings. Are you interested in improving or making the album's reception look more respectable, b/c that's all your revert is doing. It's not taking into account that the template is meant as an optional supplement (originally introduced only to fascilitate BOTS' moving of reviews from the infoboxes), nor the exclusion of brackets or parentheses, the correct MOS. I find it laughable that you think the ratings template having only two mixed scores is reflective of Metacritic, which shows 5 mixed, 5 positive, and 1 negative. And Metacritic's score being repeated in the template is simply redundant with what's directly elaborated on in the opening sentences of the prose. Please tell me what guideline or policy says the previous revision should be kept until there's consensus for change. Otherwise, I am reverting your edit on the basis of the quality of the arguments presented here. I dont need consensus to make a constructive change. Dan56 (talk) 06:10, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Good Article
[edit]I don't really know how to do it but I think this article has what it takes to be a GOOD article. Can someone please nomintate it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.173.44 (talk) 21:34, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
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Orphaned references in Stronger (Kelly Clarkson album)
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Stronger (Kelly Clarkson album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Idolator 1":
- From List of songs recorded by Kelly Clarkson: "Kelly Clarkson Preps "People Like Us" As Next Single". Idolator. Buzz Media. October 15, 2012. Retrieved April 2, 2013.
- From Catch My Breath: Lansky, Sam (4 October 2012). "Kelly Clarkson Announces New Single "Catch My Breath" From Upcoming Greatest Hits". Idolator. Buzz Media. Retrieved 4 October 2012.
- From Heartbeat Song (Kelly Clarkson song): Stern, Bradley (January 7, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson Teases Comeback "Heartbeat Song," Due Out January 12". Idolator. Archived from the original on January 8, 2015. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
- From Wrapped in Red: Lansky, Sam (October 9, 2013). "Kelly Clarkson Talks Christmas Album & Baby Rumors, Performs "Tie It Up" On 'The View'". Idolator. Archived from the original on November 5, 2013. Retrieved June 7, 2014.
- From Piece by Piece (song): Daw, Robbie (February 24, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's "Piece By Piece": Listen To Her Upcoming Album's Title Track". Idolator. Spin Media. Retrieved October 22, 2015.
- From Greatest Hits – Chapter One (Kelly Clarkson album): Lansky, Sam (October 4, 2012). "Kelly Clarkson Announces New Single "Catch My Breath" From Upcoming Greatest Hits". Idolator. Buzz Media. Retrieved October 4, 2012.
- From Mr. Know It All: "Kelly Clarkson's "Mr. Know It All" in new MP3". Idolator. Buzz Media. August 26, 2011.
- From Broken & Beautiful (song): Nied, Mike (March 27, 2019). "Kelly Clarkson Stuns On Inspiring New Anthem "Broken & Beautiful"". Idolator. Hive Media. Retrieved March 28, 2019.
- From Wrapped in Red (song): Lansky, Sam (October 9, 2013). "Kelly Clarkson Talks Christmas Album & Baby Rumors, Performs "Tie It Up" On 'The View'". Idolator. Retrieved February 7, 2014.
- From Meaning of Life (album): Nied, Mike (October 19, 2017). "Kelly Clarkson Uncovers The "Meaning Of Life" On New Buzz Track". Idolator. Hive Media. Retrieved March 3, 2018.
- From Kelly Clarkson videography: "The New Kelly Clarkson Video: The Overgrown Foliage Is A Metaphor, You See". Idolator. SpinMedia. October 8, 2007. Retrieved September 30, 2016.
- From Good Goes the Bye: Gracie, Bianca (March 2, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's "Good Goes The Bye", "Someone" & "Dance With Me": Listen To The 'Piece By Piece' Tracks". Idolator. SpinMedia. Retrieved July 9, 2015.
- From Heat (Kelly Clarkson song): Wass, Mike (November 15, 2017). "Kelly Clarkson's Next Single Will Be "Heat" Or "Medicine"". Idolator. Hive Media. Retrieved August 10, 2018.
- From Someone (Kelly Clarkson song): Riggs, Jonathan (March 3, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's 'Piece By Piece': Album Review". Idolator. SpinMedia. Archived from the original on March 7, 2015. Retrieved March 29, 2015.
- From Whole Lotta Woman (Kelly Clarkson song): Wass, Mike (November 2, 2017). "Kelly Clarkson Performs "Whole Lotta Woman" On 'The Tonight Show'". Idolator. Hive Media. Retrieved March 3, 2018.
- From Move You: Wass, Mike (September 7, 2017). "Kelly Clarkson Reinvents Herself With "Love So Soft" & "Move You"". Idolator. Eldridge Industries. Retrieved September 8, 2017.
- From Piece by Piece (Kelly Clarkson album): Daw, Robbie (November 19, 2013). "Robbie Williams & Kelly Clarkson's "Little Green Apples": Listen to the Pair's Duet". Idolator. SpinMedia. Retrieved January 28, 2015.
- From Underneath the Tree: Williott, Carl (October 18, 2013). "Kelly Clarkson Premieres New Christmas Classic "Underneath The Tree": Listen". Idolator. Spin Media. Archived from the original on November 5, 2013. Retrieved October 29, 2013.
- From People Like Us (Kelly Clarkson song): Williott, Carl (November 14, 2012). "Kelly Clarkson's "People Like Us": Hear The Uplifting New Track". Idolator. Spin Media. Retrieved February 19, 2013.
- From Miss Independent (Kelly Clarkson song): Williott, Carl (November 18, 2012). "2012 American Music Awards: Watch Kelly Clarkson Give Us A Career Retrospective". Idolator. Buzz Media. Retrieved April 5, 2013.
- From Second Hand Heart (Ben Haenow song): Dae, Robbie (1 October 2015). "Ben Haenow And Kelly Clarkson's "Second Hand Heart": Listen To A Snippet". Idolator. Spin Media. Retrieved 2 October 2015.
- From Nostalgic (song): Riggs, Jonathan (March 3, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's 'Piece By Piece': Album Review". Idolator. SpinMedia. Archived from the original on March 7, 2015. Retrieved March 6, 2015.
- From Tie It Up: Lansky, Sam (June 19, 2013). "Kelly Clarkson's "Tie It Up": Hear Her Wedding-Centric Country Single". Idolator. Spin Media. Retrieved June 20, 2013.
- From Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You): Daw, Robbie (October 5, 2011). "Kelly Clarkson's "What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)": Listen". Idolator. Buzz Media. Retrieved December 30, 2011.
- From Invincible (Kelly Clarkson song): Stern, Bradley (February 23, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson Teams Up With Sia For "Invincible": Listen To The 'Piece By Piece' Song". Idolator. Spin Media. Retrieved February 25, 2015.
- From Piece by Piece Remixed: Wass, Mike (February 29, 2016). "Kelly Clarkson Releases Idol Version Of "Piece By Piece", Announces Remix Album". Idolator. SpinMedia. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
- From Dance with Me (Kelly Clarkson song): Gracie, Bianca (March 2, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's "Good Goes The Bye", "Someone" & "Dance With Me": Listen To The 'Piece By Piece' Tracks". Idolator. SpinMedia. Retrieved July 9, 2015.
- From Take You High: Gracie, Bianca (February 26, 2015). "Kelly Clarkson's "Take You High": Listen To The 'Piece By Piece' Tune". Idolator. SpinMedia. Retrieved July 29, 2015.
- From Meaning of Life (Kelly Clarkson song): Nied, Mike (October 19, 2017). "Kelly Clarkson Uncovers The "Meaning Of Life" On New Buzz Track". Idolator. Hive Media. Archived from the original on 2017-10-24. Retrieved June 16, 2018.
Reference named "EW 1":
- From Miss Independent (Kelly Clarkson song): Hiatt, brian (November 13, 2012). "'Independent' Woman". Entertainment Weekly. Time Warner. Retrieved November 26, 2012.
- From Greatest Hits – Chapter One (Kelly Clarkson album): Brown, David (September 27, 2002). "Music Review – Before Your Love-A Moment Like This". Entertainment Weekly. Time Inc. Retrieved October 27, 2012.
- From Before Your Love: Susman, Gary (25 September 2002). "Music Article - Magic Moment". Entertainment Weekly. Time Inc. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
Reference named "AOL":
- From Don't Rush (Kelly Clarkson song): Wilbur, Sam (November 13, 2012). "Kelly Clarkson, 'Don't Rush' (Feat. Vince Gill) – New Song". AOL Radio. AOL Inc. Retrieved January 24, 2013.
- From Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You): Gayles, Contessa (December 14, 2011). "Kelly Clarkson 'What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)' Video Premiere". AOL. Retrieved December 22, 2011.
- From Miss Independent (Kelly Clarkson song): "'Miss Independent' (From Destiny's Child to Christina Aguilera to Kelly Clarkson)". AOL. Retrieved November 26, 2012.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)