Talk:State of Somaliland
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Knock it off, guys
[edit]Upon a request from Hadraa, I've come along and had a bit of a look at the basis for your two's edit warring. I've also taken the liberty of freezing the article for ten days. The wording of the article at the minute, it being frozen, has no importance: it's got nothing to do with any final decision. I would encourage you both to avoid throwing nasty remarks back and forth, if at all possible.
There does not appear to be any disagreement that the state existed for five days from June 26 to July 1, 1960. What you two seem to be arguing about is, correct me if I'm wrong, is the reason for that five-day period. Was or wasn't it purely to merge Somaliland into the new proposed Br/It merged Somalia? So please, if I'm to help you two come to some sort of consensus, put your arguments as simply as possible below, and I can try to help find a way forward.
I should note that there may really be no right answer: it would depend on which international lawyers and which countries' Ministry of Foreign Affairs you talked to (as acknowledged by one of you citing an opinion from a Chinese expert member). If that were to be the case, the way forward I think would be to acknowledge the issue is disputed, and then cite the various viewpoints (as we sometimes do with 'reactions' to a large internationally-important event, like MH17#Reactions. In this case, various groups' points of view might be best bulletpointed). Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Buckshot06 (talk) the hole argument is that the state of Somaliland was recognized by "35 countries" said by David H. Shinn iwas blocked for a week to come back and see that Middayexpress used this (China went further and actually appealed on the Somali Republic's behalf at the International Court of Justice, asking the court to "decide whether Somaliland should be independent state or should remain an integral part of Somali Republic." It therein noted the following [1]:)
this document is fraud based on
- there is no acutal prove in the International Court of Justice that says that Somalia in 2007 whent to court or even china on Somalia's behalf.
- who is this so called expert and why is the hole report based on the works of The Northern Somali Unionist Movement just read the report and there work here 1 2
- and here is Advisory Opinion submitted by the chinese on the kosovo subject 1 and see the difference with this (MEMORIAL SUBMITTED BY THE EXPERT, PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA)the forged document. and just google it.
- i even went the extra mile and emiled the ICJ and this was there response icj 1 and icj 2click on the enlargement icon on the bottom right, and says that the chinese document is a fraud .
- the funny thing is this document doesnt talk about Somaliland was recognized by "35 countries" in 1960 and still was used to throw out this David H. Shinn Somaliland: The Little Country that Could which says (The former British Somaliland became independent on June 26, 1960, within the borders that it now claims as an independent state. Thirty five states recognized Somaliland. The U.S.secretary of state, Christian Herter, sent a congratulatory message, and the United Kingdom signed several bilateral agreements with Somaliland in Hargeisa on June 26, 1960.) so why is the CSIS.ORG thrown out and replaced with a much weaker source.
- i just want what is fair ,P.S i was blocked for a month to find out that Middayexpress retired and have to say this again to Acidsnow who never did much work here.Hadraa (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- the funny thing is this document doesnt talk about Somaliland was recognized by "35 countries" in 1960 and still was used to throw out this David H. Shinn Somaliland: The Little Country that Could which says (The former British Somaliland became independent on June 26, 1960, within the borders that it now claims as an independent state. Thirty five states recognized Somaliland. The U.S.secretary of state, Christian Herter, sent a congratulatory message, and the United Kingdom signed several bilateral agreements with Somaliland in Hargeisa on June 26, 1960.) so why is the CSIS.ORG thrown out and replaced with a much weaker source.
- i even went the extra mile and emiled the ICJ and this was there response icj 1 and icj 2click on the enlargement icon on the bottom right, and says that the chinese document is a fraud .
- and here is Advisory Opinion submitted by the chinese on the kosovo subject 1 and see the difference with this (MEMORIAL SUBMITTED BY THE EXPERT, PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA)the forged document. and just google it.
- who is this so called expert and why is the hole report based on the works of The Northern Somali Unionist Movement just read the report and there work here 1 2
Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024
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Request: the map of Somaliland needs to be edited.
The Sool, Sanaag, Cayn region declared its desire to remain within Somalia early 2023. That plan came to fruition when they ousted Somaliland militias from the region in August 2023.
Additionally, the Awdal State movement is working to make the Awdal region a federal state of Somalia.
A lot has changed in the region within the past year. 2603:8000:8E40:165D:1519:C950:1B58:CEEE (talk) 17:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
"National Anthem"?
[edit]I'd like to ask why the national anthem is still called "National Anthem" when the link goes to "Saamo ku Waar". Panzerfisting (talk) 23:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- The page Samo ku waar is mainly about the current national anthem of the re-established Republic of Somaliland. That page does however contain a history section with details about the national anthem of the State of Somaliland used in 1960. The national anthem of the State of Somaliland had no lyrics and doesn't appear to have had an official title, rather it was traditional music transcribed by officers of the British Army. Without an official title to use, I couldn't think of any other description other than "National anthem" when linking to the article. A separate article, possibly named "National anthem of Somaliland (1960)", could be created instead if there is consensus on Wikipedia that such an article is necessary. Dn9ahx (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thank you for replying. Panzerfisting (talk) 01:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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154.115.237.214 (talk) 08:07, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
FADLAN SAX HALKAN WAXAA KA JIRA QALAD TAAS OO LAGU XADGUDBAYO DAL IYO BULSHO WAXAANAD U BEDESHAA REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND HALKA AH STATE OF SOMALILAND
Please correct the error in this section where it currently states 'State of Somaliland.' This is inaccurate and misleading. It should be changed to 'Republic of Somaliland' to reflect the correct and recognized name of the region."
Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2024 (2)
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Siciid aadan (talk) 08:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Please correct the error in this section where it currently states 'State of Somaliland.' This is inaccurate and misleading. It should be changed to 'Republic of Somaliland' to reflect the correct and recognized name of the region."
- Not done: The Republic of Somaliland is a different country from the one this article is about. Saucy[talk – contribs] 08:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Somaliland is a country that has a sea, a flag, and everything that a country needs. 102.218.59.52 (talk) 16:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- This article is about the historical country that existed for 5 days in 1960. There is a separate article about the country re-established in 1991. You can find that article here: Republic of Somaliland. Dn9ahx (talk) 16:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)