Talk:Stan Getz

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Stan Getz article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 365 days

This level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Philadelphia Low‑importance

	Philadelphia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philadelphia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Philadelphia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PhiladelphiaWikipedia:WikiProject PhiladelphiaTemplate:WikiProject PhiladelphiaPhiladelphia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Jazz High‑importance

	Jazz portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jazz, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of jazz on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JazzWikipedia:WikiProject JazzTemplate:WikiProject JazzJazz articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as High-importance).

Jazz Samba album

Quote from the article:-

The title track "Jazz Samba" was an adaptation of Antonio Carlos Jobim's composition "So Danço Samba".

The problem here is that there is no title track on that album.

Gott mecht abhieten

First Jewish? Now Polish? What’s this irritation about? Is it a shame to be Jewish? And believe it or not – the origin of humans – t.i. ancestry, culture, education, self-conciousness (about the former three) and such – makes a character. And a character makes an artist. Even if WP prefers identical hominides....

"This is not a forum for general discussion" - then what's the point of this page? I wanted to improve the article but hey let's just stay in this silly limbo

This has been removed.

Where was Getz/Gilberto recorded?

"In 1964, Getz traveled to Brazil to work with João Gilberto, famed creator of bossa nova. While recording the influential album Getz/Gilberto, Gilberto introduced Getz to his wife, Astrud Gilberto, who sang two of the tracks on the album. After the album was recorded, Getz returned to the United States"

From reading this I'd come to the conclusion that Getz/Gilberto was recorded in Brazil in 1964. However, both Wikipedia article and disk liner state that this album was recorded March 18th & 19th, 1963 in New York City. Which information is correct? --2003:F3:53C2:1900:448F:94AD:3936:2F6E (talk) 07:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

getz's jewish heritage

hi there, historian, not jewish, i find getz's jewish heritage relevant like amy winehouse's insofar as it is connected with historical jewish voices in uk and american jazz circles and as part of historical jewish prominence in entertainment and arts circles in early 1900s nyc "caucasian" america where jews were both legally "white" but also a kind of non-protestant subaltern group like italians and irish also often working class originally and also often intertwined with the scenes and circles of a British and American subaltern arts "underworld" underground where black jazz disco motown hip hop and the like developed, but yes maybe doesnt make sense as the first sentence, but ie class dimensions are relevant here in my opinion, Jobim in brazil likewise raised by his single mother then with step father took an interest in what was considered in brazil the african heritage music underworld of samba and the like despite nobility elite distaste for it 108.35.187.121 (talk) 05:51, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Subaltern, that's a trotsky'ist zionist statement. 175.33.74.210 (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Astrud controversy

This sentence seems contradictory/ unclear.

"Getz and producer Creed Taylor claimed that the music's success was a result of their discovery of the talent of Astrud Gilberto, who had never before been recorded as a vocalist, shifting the spotlight away from her and depriving her of credit, when it had been her vocal rendition that had made the song a smashing success with the general public.". What shifted the spotlight away from her? 24.62.179.70 (talk) 10:36, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes -- this caught my eye as well. If Getz and Taylor "claimed that the music's success was (due to) Astrud Gilberto", then that is shifting the spotlight onto her, not away from her. Also, the word "smashing" is inappropriate in an encyclopedia. Furthermore, the source cited for the passage about Astrud being exploited is an article in The Independent which is full of cant, such as "...a sorry tale of how a shy young woman was exploited, manipulated and left broken by a male-dominated music industry..." which is a curious claim, given the fact that her husband -- one of the most successful musicians in Brazil at the time, and who recorded the album with her -- certainly had some agency, if he thought his wife was being exploited. It's well-known that Getz had a terrible reputation as a human, but that does not justify the convoluted and catastrophizing claims made here about Astrud Gilberto. As no one has weighed-in to the contrary in the 6 months since the previous editor commented on this, I will boldly edit the passage to try to get it to make sense and be less subjective. Bricology (talk) 11:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]