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Notable residents

Lets not forgot Dave Burba and Dustin Hermanson as professional baseball players that were born and raised in Springfield.

Also Harvey Haddix. Holds record for most consecutive perfect innings pitched. Technically from Westville, Ohio. Which is about 5-7 miles N of SPringfield or 2 miles directly W of Urbana, OH.

I would argue that Gene Bowshire and Tony Powell, both local musicians that are listed as notable people, are not really notable. They are locally notable to the very small local music scene. They do both write their own music, but they don't have record deals, and rarely play outside of the immediate area. The argument being they are not known outside the immediate area and are not really that well known to the general public in the immediate area.

I would argue that Gene Bowshire's (I know I'm spelling his name wrong), deceased father, Donnie Bowshire be added. He had a top ten hit in the late 50's, with the single "Stone Heart". Some of his late 50's recordings leave him identify as a minor player in the recorded history of rockabilly music. Which though popular and well documented, there wasn't a rockabilly act in every town on the trail. They were few and far between, and rockabilly has a very short history from 54 to 57 or 58. Stone Heart, which I believe was recorded in 58 found him straddling a rock, honky tonk, rockabilly. He later evolved into a purely country musician. He has a notation in the allmusic.com registry. Which is a resource site that started years ago as a resource publication for press research. There is another more famous female country musician from the area from the same time frame. I believe she was from Catawba, OH just NE of SPringfield. I will have to consult my wife on this.

The New Boston referenced in this article is not the one in Scioto County

I unlinked the mention of New Boston from the article on the New Boston in Scioto County. Scioto County was never part of Clark County and thus its New Boston could not have been passed over by the state legislature for county seat of Clark County. Also, the article on the Scioto County New Boston states that it was platted in 1891, another indication that that New Boston couldn't have been a contender to be county seat of Clark County back in 1818. Dlauri (talk) 21:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Springfield Battle

is referencing Springfield Mass  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.182.150 (talk) 16:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why aren't there any infos about town government here?

Really, where's any info about the town council and recent elections? Who's in charge there? Inquiring minds would like to know. Springfieldians, please add those facts! Gray62 (talk) 21:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done--Chimino (talk) 17:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Places of worship section

After viewing several cities' Wikipedia pages, it appears that a section for 'Places of worship' is not the norm. Personally, I don't see the significance of the section and feel it should be removed. I look forward to feedback from others regarding this. Dogscatsbirds (talk) 13:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A good place for guidance is WP:City structure. My opinion would be to remove any non-notable (generally meaning not having an article or other form of significance) locations.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 20:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes reliable sources (as in newspaper articles) talk about religion characterizing a community, like Katy, Texas being known as the "City of Churches" (from this source). But if the newspapers don't talk about the significance of religion in the community, there may be less of a need to talk about the churches. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20,000 immigrants in five years but the population has gone down?

The Demographics section of this article, as in the articles for many municipalities, includes a box for Historical Population which shows that Springfield's population declining from a peak above 80,000 in 1960 and 1970 to about 61,000 in 2010, about 59,000 in 2020, and about 58,000 estimated in 2023.

Meanwhile, the last paragraph of the History section, supported by two links to the Springfield News-Sun, says: "By 2024, an estimated 15,000-20,000 Haitian refugees had settled in the city" (the links says this migration happened over a period of five years) and that local officials say this influx caused "an increased use of city services for which they were not prepared."

These points need not be in conflict, but it does raise questions about whether the population would have been down to 40,000 or so if not for the immigrants, and whether the local authorities had budgeted for that much lower number of people to support. Maybe someone with more knowledge of Springfield can find some reliable sources that explain this. NME Frigate (talk) 01:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The estimate likely reflects close to none of the Haitian migrants as they are difficult to formally track. City & state estimates are based on subjective factors like an increase in healthcare needs, school enrollment, vehicle registrations, etc. I suspect (hopefully) the next US Census will be much different.—Chimino (talk) 22:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, fine, but then someone link to those city or state estimates. And actually, why are the Haitians harder to "formally track" than anybody else who lives in Springfield? They've been moving there for the work, and if they have jobs, they presumably are able to afford housing. The city of Springfield's website* says there are an estimated 12,000-15,000 immigrants in Clark County, and it doesn't restrict that to Haitian immigrants or to recently arrived immigrants. So that right there calls into question the statement mentioned above that 15,000-20,000 Haitian immigrants moved into Springfield -- whose population is something like half of Clark County as a whole -- over approximately the past five years.

https://springfieldohio.gov/immigration-faqs/

NME Frigate (talk) 06:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you can find official estimates that put the population at a higher number than currently stated, please add them.—Chimino (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chimino I think it makes more sense for someone to provide any evidence at all of 20,000 Haitians living in Springfield 2600:1003:A410:C42:711:16C8:36F2:CBAA (talk) 10:33, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20,000 estimate was given by city officials, as seen in the links provided.—Chimino (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Translation ideas for FRwiki and HTwiki

Hello! Reminding people to reach out to those on FRwiki and HTwiki who edit US articles so important parts of this article are translated for Haitian residents. Some Haitians may prefer French, and some may prefer Creole, so I recommending covering both of those bases. Also consider having the article on the school district with the majority of the area translated into French and Haitian. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump and Springfield

The false claims Donald Trump made about the eating of dogs and cats in Springfield is correctly referenced in the article. However I wonder whether this warrants its own paragraph. After all, these bizarre claims have now catapulted Springfield into global attention. What do other editors think? Research17 (talk) 19:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's an entire article about it Springfield, Ohio cat-eating hoax WhisperToMe (talk) 20:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as one of the very few people who was editing this page before this week, I agree. Hopefully after the election when the city is a footnote to history, we can do away with the recentism and put this mess into historical context.—Chimino (talk) 02:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]