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percentage of electrical output not coinciding with reported values

The non-cited claim in this article that 90% of electrical output comes from sunlight does not jive with reports I've seen that 25% of the SEGS plants have been allowed to derive from fossil fuels.

The following is from the U.S. DOE's EERE website; https://www1.eere.energy.gov/ba/pba/pdfs/solar_trough.pdf

"Note, even though only 25% of the annual energy input to the plant comes from natural gas, since this energy is converted only at the highest turbine cycle efficiency, 34% of the annual electric output from the plant comes from gas energy. "

If someone has some reliable reference that indicates something far different than this cited percentage, I would be grateful to know where that is.

Wikibearwithme (talk) 23:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are images that tell part of the story not allowed? This is really silly. Jcwf (talk) 21:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The objection seems to be to images without accompanying text. To reinstate the images, you might write a short section which describes the sub-topic which the image conveys. If there is no clear corresponding sub-topic, then this indicates that the image may indeed be redundant. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is field area?

Why is it so big compared to the area of the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.237.64.150 (talk) 14:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't. Check the unit - one is listed in square meters and the other in square kilometers. Rmhermen (talk) 02:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still there is something weird though, if you add up the areas on the table they add up to something lik 2km^2 while it says 6.5km^2 in introduction. Maybe one is just mirror area and the other land area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.175.32.254 (talk) 16:17, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - this article is quite deficient in defining its terminology ("site" vs "field" vs collecting area, "name plate capacity" is at 1kW/m2 on mirror area? "capacity factor" is determined precisely from what?). The normal-incidence aperture dimensions of the mirrors would also allow one to obtain an idea of what the performance is, but one simply can't do it with this little defined. I edited article to include the following: The term "field area" is assessed as the actual collector area. Wikibearwithme (talk) 19:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership

Information found here says that the SEGS are owned by three separate bodies as:

SEGS I & II
SEGS III, IV, V, VI, VII
SEGS VIII & IX

It also says that No.2 is collectively called SEGS 3 through 7, and that it is owned by the Kramer Junction Company. Could someone add this information to the article? I'll add if it hasn't been in a while. Thanks. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 12:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SEGS 3 Through 9 is now owned by Florida Power And Light and operate under Nextera Energy Resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.24.99 (talk) 20:21, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates

Could someone add separate coordinates for each of the nine units in the table? I've tried but came up with no luck in finding the information. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 12:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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What Did They Cost?

It would be very intersting to find out what these plants cost, for people interested in the economics of solar energy. I'll see if I can find any information. DonPMitchell (talk) 21:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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