Talk:Simon Bar Sinister

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The text doesn't say he was an evil scientist, but he was categorized as Category:Fictional scientists and was clearly evil, so I changed the category. --David.alex.lamb 17:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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What's the basis for saying Cad's last name is Lackey? I don't recall it ever being uttered in an episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.152.146.103 (talk) 04:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe Simon's last name is properly rendered as one word: Barsinister. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vile Jelly (talk • contribs) 23:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simon bar Kinski

I always thought he looked a little like Klaus Kinski. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.61.139 (talk) 21:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Bar Sinister

Also, in Uncle Tom's Cabin, the villian Simon Legree can be combined with a line from a letter written by the character, George Harris, in the penultimate chapter where he describes slavery as "...that bar sinister which disgraces her (America) among nations...." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.11.90 (talk) 18:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The word sinister is also Latin for "the left side," which makes sense because Simon Bar Sinister is shown in the article as being left-handed. — Glenn L (talk) 03:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This is speculation, but Simon's command "Go snow!" could be a play on the Russian term (for "to snow"), literally, "It goes snow." Given the Cold War time frame of the cartoon (and bald Simon's Khrushchevian appearance, IMHO) could this be a little inside joke by a writer familiar with Russian? 76.74.9.50 (talk) 15:38, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This section looks to be unref'd original research, and it assumes the origin of the name is more or less [Simon] [Bar Sinister], while I'd always assumed (without thinking about it much) that it was [Simon Bar] [Sinister] -- thus a patch on an Israeli or Jewish name, compare Simon bar Kokhba who could himself have been the inspiration. See also Matthew 16:17 "And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah'..." and so on. I guess "bar" means "son of" in Hebrew or Aramaic or whatever. So it'd be "Simon son of Sinister" I guess.

This is sort of inflammatory I suppose, but if it was really [Simon] [Bar Sinister], then why use the first name "Simon" which is Hebrew and, I think without really checking, kinda-sorta the kind of first name a Jewish person might be expected to have (for instance Simon Wiesenthal, although I suppose it's a common Gentile name too, like "Sarah" or "Rebecca").

If the originators didn't want to give a Jewish cast to the name, they were foolish to use the first name Simon. It could have been William or Jack or whatever.

There's no way to ref this, and even if you could dig up an interview or something by the creator, they'd probably be like "Oh, that's never occurred to me, it was purely based on Bar Sinister, what a coincidence" whether it's true or not, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, neither is the other speculation ref'd, so either this second possible origin should be mentioned, or the section deleted, since it's possibly wrong and it's misleading to have just the one theory and not the other. Herostratus (talk) 16:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a pun that deliberately combines both meanings. Anyone familiar with the Bible (Jewish or Christian), would recognize "Simon bar ___" as a Biblical-sounding name. Anyone familiar with heraldry or English literature would recognize the phrase "bar sinister" as meaning "bastard". Combining the two makes a humorous joke for the literate viewers -- and traditionally, kids' cartoons included jokes aimed at adults so that the parents didn't get too bored when their kids were watching a dog who can fly when he eats an energy pill.

It's like those Wheel of Fortune puzzles that combine two overlapping phrases into a single humorous phrase, like "A Chip Off The Old Block And Tackle". — Lawrence King ^(talk) 07:20, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]