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Andrew Zimmerman

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I guess we need to try and settle this. Currently, we say:

"According to Snopes, in a January 2019 episode of her television show Full Measure, Attkisson mischaracterized statements made in 2007 by a medical expert, Andrew Zimmerman, regarding a hypothetical relationship between vaccines and autism."

The source is [1]. The thing is, Snopes did not find that Attkinson mischaracterised his statements, but did find that she overstated the significance of them. I've been over the Snopes article, and can't find any point where Snopes states that his statements were mischaracterised. Specifically, Snopes founds two claims made by Attkisson to be false:

  • "The legal decisions refuting a connection between autism and vaccination during the Omnibus Autism Proceeding rested primarily on the written testimony of Andrew Zimmerman"
  • "Zimmerman’s knowledge about a potential circumstance in which a vaccine could theoretically affect ASD was hidden from the public until he came forward in 2018"

In both cases, Snopes found that Attkisson had overstated the significance of Zimmerman's clams, but not that she mischaracterised what Zimmerman had said. Ultimately, Snopes stated:

"Zimmerman, a scientist with serious credentials who was once a government expert on vaccines, believes that narrow circumstances might exist in which the combination of pre-existing mitochondrial dysfunction and vaccination could trigger ASD."

This has become a point of contention by those supporting Attkinson, who have argued that we are misrepresenting Snopes. I'm proposing that we make a minor change to the wording to read:

"According to Snopes, in a January 2019 episode of her television show Full Measure, Attkisson mischaracterized the significance of statements made in 2007 by a medical expert, Andrew Zimmerman, regarding a hypothetical relationship between vaccines and autism."

That way we retain the fact that her report was misleading but are fully in keeping with the Snopes findings and the rest of our paragraph. - Bilby (talk) 01:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a week, and I assume that this is an uncontroversial change. Accordingly I'll make the change as described. - Bilby (talk) 07:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Basic biographical elements and WP:V

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I recently removed an unverified date of birth, and swapped birthplace for one supported by several references that state Sarasota, Florida. However I now see there was a previous discussion of alleged errors in place and date of birth initiated by an IP address claiming to be Sharyl Attkisson. Many sources state Attkisson is a Sarasota "native"[1][2][3][4] while some explicitly state born in Sarasota.[5][6][7] A directory of questionable reliability for a BLP (Marquis Who's Who) gives a birthplace of St. Petersburg, Florida, as well as names of parents, spouse, and daughter.[8] A full date of birth is listed at her Library of Congress authority file (based on a "CIP data sheet"), as well as a 2003 version of her CBS News biography (subsequent versions of her official biography apparently omitted place and date of birth). She was also previously known as Sharyl Thompson.[3][9][10] I haven't yet found sources where the subject has clearly self-published or Tweeted DOB or POB, which could be used per WP:BLPSELFPUB. I guess the salient question is: which birth elements should we use, and how best to address the discrepancies? --Animalparty! (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Belcher, Walt (September 13, 1993). "Keeping up to the minute on TV anchor". The Tampa Tribune. p. 4 – via NewsBank.
  2. ^ Peterson, Nolan (March 13, 2014). "Return to her roots". Siesta Key Observer. Retrieved 2017-11-20.
  3. ^ a b Gould, Janie (22 July 2020). "National reporter recalls start on Treasure Coast". Indian River Magazine.
  4. ^ Geltner, Ted (June 5, 2006). "Keeping an eye on Washington". The Gainesville Sun.
  5. ^ "Sharyl Attkisson". CBS News. Archived from the original on 5 March 2011.
  6. ^ Perez, Alicia (February 7, 2006). "CBS News taps a Gator for a top job". The Gainesville Sun.
  7. ^ "Q&A with Sharyl Attkisson", (March 20, 2009). C-SPAN. Retrieved June 23, 2019.
  8. ^ Who's Who of American Women, 1997-1998. New Providence, NJ: Marquis Who's Who. 1996. p. 38. ISBN 978-0-8379-0422-1.
  9. ^ "TV Anchor's Move May Alter Sheriff Staff". The Miami Herald. August 1, 1985 – via NewsBank.
  10. ^ "Stuart 2nd Democrat Seeks Nomination For Seat". The Miami Herald. February 21, 1990. p. 1B – via NewsBank.

Anti-vaccine reporting

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Two problems with the starting line. First, each of the three references provided have nothing to do with the assertion "a position rejected by the scientific community". Second, it's improper to claim that the scientific community is a single entity with a single voice, or that this particular question was resolved. Agreed there is dispute as to Vaccine Efficacy and the extent of Adverse Reactions. However, the US Government has a huge system in place for tracking adverse reactions, and some vaccines are pulled from the market because their harm exceeds their good. So we can't throw out every critical report of vaccines on presumptive belief. The article needs to stay on topic, the fact that she reported on a controversial topic is fair game, but jumping on one side is not appropriate. There is significant dispute by medical doctors, scholars, and reporters on the topic of vaccines [1] [2][3] and every article can't be a forum to resolve such disputes, nor a platform to claim the resolution of such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowsetfree (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We follow the science and not the fraud. Attkisson follows the fraud and not the science. --Hob Gadling (talk) 14:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ name="Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History" https://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Z11JEEY3OM7S&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fghLWYmg8IoPvenJov2OLdTf7SjBu6sEPkg7Hnmi6NVaKsFtnnJ1tXuAw7xpAK9JDH1YdZpCOJFmn9xyNW55oDd9fi8HnFw7lI_97yP5Cs7Jr4m4PZvMt_XY39jGXl2bAXmdsEMvHd9TWlC7QKCszYPyin9Hy0GbnIcKfGrsFSbLidBKZUqdhQ1YajiOgOzC9lz1s1vduiyZk_8CZ3p5ywMIvAmcJSIdGAIEu0OGuVg.GaFlVROzL_jANog7thhjziz3BYAe5sjsvKQA267FAc4&dib_tag=se&keywords=vaccine+history+md&qid=1723900319&s=books&sprefix=vaccine+history+md%2Cstripbooks%2C91&sr=1-1
  2. ^ name="Cause Unknown: The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 & 2022"https://www.amazon.com/Cause-Epidemic-Sudden-Childrens-Defense/dp/1510776397/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ADLLU2ZN62KV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kAZSO7g2YCq-s0DtpvXK5Q7jf8aGuRGsJoRftsZQF24ceJu3gCHu3CUMN5ubp4LopfyBUzwuJyKFgAWJM2F_nrQkrzD77CYR2aFOjr-jr0_Hgk24zui5cHw08XgIsyuLHnbzaCspkMCAm5CRryToERzismi2t4_NZRkpbdSG8IFgdnVtXWpDaiOlEe06X6AqGvjH7LDXGqdt8P9r9VMGjDrrecrT9zJ_BKPias4kYv4.HvqzIVeoVvLgIOqJ_cFdzCu6nBVS7kE-Twpt6GdALM0&dib_tag=se&keywords=covid19+vaccine+deaths&qid=1723900039&s=books&sprefix=covid19+vaccine+deaths%2Cstripbooks%2C90&sr=1-2
  3. ^ name=" Anyone Who Tells You Vaccines Are Safe and Effective is Lying Paperback – March 27, 2019 by Dr Vernon Coleman" https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Tells-Vaccines-Effective-Lying/dp/1091757712/ref=sw_ttl_d_smartwagon_d_dex_com_add_to_cart_t1_v1_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1091757712&pd_rd_w=5aWJG&content-id=amzn1.sym.5321e6d4-ee4c-4e6c-910a-03118c298f37&pf_rd_p=5321e6d4-ee4c-4e6c-910a-03118c298f37&pf_rd_r=AZMR5K4DJ0XY2SVJXX0Z&pd_rd_wg=xBlFb&pd_rd_r=b67b1e65-f552-4744-a410-5d32dd1fb994,
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