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Photo Stadium

I would like to put a photo of the stadium of the CD Tenerife, since the boss resides in the great Metropolis Thank you. Tenerifecanarias (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its port is the first fishing port in the Canary Islands

Its port is the first fishing port in the Canary Islands. Following this report is the largest port number of passengers recorded. Similarly, the second port of spain moving ship and loaded into cars, only surpassed by the Port of Algeciras Bay. You can check the Spanish version: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Puerto_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.40.239.136 (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Auditorio de Tenerife

Must make a separate article of the Auditorio de Tenerife!!!!!. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.42.230.48 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

metropolitan area

But now metropilitana is the area most densely populated of the Canary Islands, with 1156.33 m / km ².http://alarcos.inf-cr.uclm.es/per/fruiz/pobesp/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.148.10.252 (talk) 10:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But has the largest metropolitan area in the Canary Islands, on its two main cities (Santa Cruz de Tenerife and San Cristobal de La Laguna): http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.232.30 (talk) 12:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Has the largest metropolitan area in the Canary Islands, on its two main cities (Santa Cruz and San Cristobal de La Laguna). You can check the version in Spanish: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife and http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna

No, is not. Your source said nothing about it, second sources [1] says something else: Las Palmas - 884km², Santa Cruz - 739km². Inter-man (talk) 14:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, wrong, watch it on the page in Spanish.

Santa Cruz: 366,85 km²: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna

Las Palmas: 284.5 km²: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Las_Palmas_de_Gran_Canaria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.148.88.210 (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not sources. Inter-man (talk) 20:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quote from article: "It also has the metropolitan area most densely populated of the Canary Islands to 1156.33 m/km ² (Santa Cruz de Tenerife -La Laguna)". This is wrong. Las Palmas (381,123 peoples on 100,55 km²) and adjacent Telde (99,201 peoples on 102,43 km²) is 480,324 peoples on 202,98 km². Density of population: 2366.36 hab /km². Please, stop magnify the importance of metropolitan area of Santa Cruz. Inter-man (talk) 20:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is changing the metropolitan area. The largest metropolitan area in the Canary Islands Santa Cruz de Tenerife, you can check the verification page in Spanish wikipedia: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna

Says:

El Área metropolitana de Santa Cruz de Tenerife-La Laguna está situada en el extremo más oriental de la isla de Tenerife (Islas Canarias, España), en torno a sus dos principales ciudades: Santa Cruz de Tenerife y San Cristóbal de La Laguna (la única área metropolitana de Canarias con estas características). A su vez, es el Área Metropolitana o área urbana más extensa de Canarias con 366,85 kilómetros de extensión.[1

Would be translated:

The metropolitan area of Santa Cruz de Tenerife-La Laguna is located in the easternmost part of the island of Tenerife (Canary Islands, Spain), on its two major cities: Santa Cruz and San Cristobal de La Laguna (the Canary single metropolitan area with these characteristics). At the same time, the metropolitan area or urban area largest Canary 366.85 kilometers. [1

I am a canary, and I know what I say, bay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.151.45.214 (talk) 15:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here we can see: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife

http://www.pueblos-espana.org/canarias/tenerife/santa+cruz+de+tenerife/376556/

http://www.guanches.org/enciclopedia/index.php?title=%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.151.45.214 (talk) 15:16, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish Wikipedia is not sources. This: http://www.pueblos-espana.org/canarias/tenerife/santa+cruz+de+tenerife/376556/ is text from wikipedia (writes at the bottom of the page, quote "Referencias en: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna"). This: http://www.guanches.org/enciclopedia/index.php?title=%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna is mirror of wikipedia.

You did not provide any sources, please read Wikipedia:Verifiability.

Such contributions will always be revoked. If you do not apply the principles of Wikipedia (again), I notify your behavior to administrators (that blocked your IP). Inter-man (talk) 16:21, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, 79.151.45.214 is the same user who has written the wrong information in the spanish wikipedia. We try to revise their editions there, but he insists again and again. So dont use the spanish wikipedia as a reference.--Phirosiberia (talk) 14:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Municipio	Población	Superficie Km²	Densidad h/km²
Santa Cruz de Tenerife	220.902	150,56	1.467,2
San Cristóbal de La Laguna	144.347	102,06	1.414,33
Tacoronte	22.943	30,09	762.48
El Rosario	16.721	39,42	424.18
Tegueste	10.461	26,41	396,1
El Sauzal	8.826	18,31	482,03
Total	424.200	366.85	1.156,33

Municipio	Población	Superficie Km²	Densidad h/km²
Las Palmas de Gran Canaria	377.203	100	3.772
Telde	98.399	102	965
Arucas	35.280	33	1.069
Santa Brígida	18.919	23,80	795
Teror	12.290	25,70	478
Total	542.091	284.5	1.905

Spanish Wikipedia has given me the reason the Metropolitan AREA is the largest of Santa Cruz de Tenerife-La Laguna. Check it out: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Usuario_Discusi% C3% B3n: Vandalism Phirosiberia # (end)

http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife

You adding a reliable source. Not Spanish wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability.
You don't manipulate the sources. Do not give information to the Wikipedia if there is no given source on this information. Where writes (in your sources), that is the largest? In sources did not write nothing about it.
Not edit-war.
Nor OR. Please read Wikipedia:No original research. Inter-man (talk) 15:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS. Data of metropolitan area on Canary Islands + sources:

Metropolitan area	Source: European Spatial Planning Observation Network	Source: Eurostat, Larger Urban Zone	Source: Ruiz
Las Palmas de Gran Canaria	640,000 IGEAT (March 2007). ESPON project 1.4.3: Study on Urban Functions: Final Report (PDF). ESPON. ISBN 2-9600467-2-2. Retrieved 2009-04-09. `{{cite book}}`: Unknown parameter `\|coauthors=` ignored (`\|author=` suggested) (help)	625,892 "Las Palmas". urbanaudit. 2008. Retrieved 2009-04-09.	741826}Study carried out by Francisco Ruiz Ruiz, Francisco. "Población de España - datos y mapas" (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.Ruiz, Francisco (2008-12-30). "Población de las áreas urbanas y metropolitanas" (XLS) (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.Ruiz, Francisco (2008-12-30). "Conurbaciones" (XLS) (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.
Santa Cruz de Tenerife	399,000 IGEAT (March 2007). ESPON project 1.4.3: Study on Urban Functions: Final Report (PDF). ESPON. ISBN 2-9600467-2-2. Retrieved 2009-04-09. `{{cite book}}`: Unknown parameter `\|coauthors=` ignored (`\|author=` suggested) (help)	481592} "Santa Cruz de Tenerife". urbanaudit. 2008. Retrieved 2009-04-09.	581,947Study carried out by Francisco Ruiz Ruiz, Francisco. "Población de España - datos y mapas" (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.Ruiz, Francisco (2008-12-30). "Población de las áreas urbanas y metropolitanas" (XLS) (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.Ruiz, Francisco (2008-12-30). "Conurbaciones" (XLS) (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-04-09.

You still want to cheat? Inter-man (talk) 16:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These data are not updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.146.225.83 (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not get where these data, there does not say anything you say in Spanish wikipedia and just give me the reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.146.225.83 (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The metropolitan area of Las Palmas is the most populated, but the biggest (in size) is the metropolitan area Santa Cruz-La Laguna. Note that the covers 5 municipalities Las Palmas (284.5 km of area in total), and Santa Cruz de Tenerife the covers 6 municipalities (366.85 km in total area).

Provide a source about "but the biggest (in size) is the metropolitan area Santa Cruz-La Laguna. Note that the covers 5 municipalities Las Palmas (284.5 km of area in total), and Santa Cruz de Tenerife the covers 6 municipalities (366.85 km in total area)". Inter-man (talk) 17:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I made a lot of times, the Spanish Wikipedia has given me the reason, whether you send a page of discussion in which they gave me the reason. http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.151.45.188 (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are illiterate?

You adding a reliable source. Not Spanish wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability.
You don't manipulate the sources. Do not give information to the Wikipedia if there is no given source on this information. Where writes (in your sources), that is the largest? In sources did not write nothing about it.
Not edit-war.
Not OR. Please read Wikipedia:No original research.

Inter-man (talk) 21:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The largest metropolitan area is to TENERIFE Who is he trying to fool? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.44.139.68 (talk) 21:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

metropolitan area

Spanish Wikipedia has again given me the reason, Santa Cruz de Tenerife is the largest metropolitan area, and the most populous Palmas. Even blocked the page so that you no longer handled, you can check yourself: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tenerife —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.35.207.199 (talk) 11:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Until the Wikipedia article in Spanish has been blocked and continues in the largest metropolitan area (in size, extent) is that of Santa Cruz de Tenerife: http://es.wiki.x.io/wiki/%C3%81rea_metropolitana_de_Santa_Cruz_de_Tenerife-La_Laguna

Please, I'm just giving a figure, no attempt to deceive anyone, nor your enemy, and e data provided more than sufficient, and in Spanish wikipedia gives me the reason. Be fair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.36.123.174 (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Capital of Tenerife

Shouldn't the article begin by saying that Santa Cruz is the capital of Tenerife? One has to drill down into the first paragraph before this is revealed. The opening few sentences are kind of confusing and labyrinthine. Looking above it would appear that there's some sort of debate taking place as to how populous Santa Cruz is: one imagines that this is why the introduction to the article begins by splitting hairs about the amount of people that live there. To the reader this is muddy and not at all straightforward. Have a look again at the intro: in my opinion, it's something of a mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.167.39 (talk) 17:06, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

My reasons for changing the pictures. In the Picture of the Museum (File:Museodelanaturalezayelhombre01.jpg now File:Antiguo Hospital.jpg) you saw just an unimportant part of the impressive building. The Picture of the Plaza de España (File:Tenerife2005 056.jpg now File:Plaza de España 03.jpg) was taken before the redesign by Herzog & de Meuron. The picture of the Parliament (File:Santa Cruz Parlamento de Canarias fcm.jpg now File:Parlamento 02.jpg) seems to me a bit to grey. (In Tenerife we do not have sun every day – but nearly.) The same reason for the fountain of Plaza Weyler (File:Santa Cruz Brunnen auf der Plaza Weyler fcm.jpg now File:Weyler 01.jpg) an other reason for changing this photo is, this picture is a bit blurred. My English is not good enough to write an article so I just deliver some pictures of the “Exposición Internacional de Escultura en la Calle“ and a link to this exhibition.( http://takingaline.hortweek.com/2011/10/09/international-exhibition-of-sculpture-of-santa-cruz-50-years-on/) --koppchen (talk) 10:32, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Climate data(1981-2010)

Official Climate data for 1981-2010 is available to download for all of spain. http://www.aemet.es/en/conocermas/publicaciones/detalles/guia_resumida_2010 I hope, noone has a problem with me updating it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.150.49.186 (talk) 15:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing statements

What should readers make of the following statements written in a row? "Santa Cruz has a population of 206,593 (2013) within its administrative limits.[3] The urban zone of Santa Cruz extends beyond the administrative city limits with a population of 507,306.[5] This is the main city on the island of Tenerife with a population of nearly 1 million."

The last sentence is clearly wrong unless the editor's intention was to remark that the island of Tenerife has a population of 1 million.

It's all very confusing. There´s a sort of desperate attempt to picture Santa Cruz as something of a winner in every sense. This trend detracts from the NPOV Wikipedia criterion and renders some sections of the article banal and far-fetched.

200.12.130.224 (talk) 14:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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