Talk:Sam Hunt
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[edit]The particular genre of Sam Hunt's music is clearly in some dispute. Instead of endlessly changing and reverting the genre, please let's try to come to a more permanent consensus here. I strongly suggest that participants read the policy prohibiting original research, as well as the verifiability policy.
With that said, my opinion is that Allmusic, which gives his genres as country, country/rock, and country/pop, is a suitable source to support the addition of those particular genres; that said, it is not unreasonable to add further genres to the infobox, or the "musical style" section. C628 (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to keep it as bro-country, which is the general category that most of his music falls under. Look at Florida Georgia Line and Chase Rice's pages. They are listed as bro-country, as the general category of their music is bro-country. --98.183.184.171 (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Do you have any sources for that, or is it just your opinion? Because one analysis has said he is "bucking the bro country trend." C628 (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not technically true though. My sources are the lyrics. They match the criteria of what makes a song bro country. --98.183.184.171 (talk) 21:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Did you actually read the policy prohibiting original research? Because your personal analysis is exactly what that policy prohibits. C628 (talk) 22:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not technically true though. My sources are the lyrics. They match the criteria of what makes a song bro country. --98.183.184.171 (talk) 21:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Do you have any sources for that, or is it just your opinion? Because one analysis has said he is "bucking the bro country trend." C628 (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think his music falls under the country pop umbrella more than bro-country for two big reasons. One, his music is often slick and pop-like in production rather than country (which is different than the cluttery country-rockish feel of some FGL, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton, etc. songs), and two, his lyrics don't align with the typical bro-country tropes either (objectification of women, cliche country things like trucks, tailgates, barefeet, etc. all listed one after another). So yeah, I think there's a big difference between something like "Take Your Time" (very poppish, rhythmic feel -- reminds me of Drake) to songs like "Cruise," "Boys 'Round Here," and "Dirt Road Anthem," to list a few. I think he's country pop... almost just pop on some songs imo but he markets himself to country, so it seems more fitting to me than bro-country does. CloversMallRat (talk) 23:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think country pop best suits him. Similar to what CMR mentioned, in many songs (like Take Your Time) he's almost completely pop, but country pop is better since he markets himself under the country genre (similar to how Brantley Gilbert has many rock songs, but he is listed as country rock since he is marketed as a country singer). As for his lyrics, in some of his songs, he may shallowly objectify women, but I agree with CMR again that many of the common bro-country tropes (tailgates, trucks, beer, bare feet, jeans, etc.) aren't in his songs. I believe the only "bro" song he has ever released is Speakers (not a single), but definitely not the majority of his music is.--Jack Gaines (talk) 02:47, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- C628 has the point. It doesn't matter what we think in this context and we shouldn't be debating about it here. Trisyorkli (talk) 04:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. We have a clear consensus that the musician is the primary topic. Cúchullain t/c 21:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Sam Hunt (musician) → Sam Hunt – Clear primary topic. Page view statistics show that this article has received 99% of page views for people named "Sam Hunt". When searching for "sam hunt" in search engines, 48 of my first 50 DuckDuckGo results and 49 of my 50 Google search results are about the country singer. SSTflyer 16:00, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Strong oppose fails the "Sam Hunt was" test and the "Sam Hunt is" test, therefore no evidence in WP:RS that this 22-year old singer has in the long term displaced all other Samuel Hunts and Sam Hunts in world history combined. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Samuel Hunt (New Hampshire) (1765–1807), American congressman
- Samuel Hunt (cricketer) (1909–1963), English cricketer
- Sam Hunt (poet) (born 1946), New Zealand poet
- Sam Hunt (American football) (born 1951), American football linebacker
- Sam Hunt (Australian footballer) (born 1983), Australian rules footballer
- Sam Hunt (Washington politician)
- Sam Hunt (musician) (born 1984), American songwriter and former American college football player
- Samuel Furman Hunt, (1844–1907), American judge and legislator from Cincinnati
- Please ignore this user and pretend he's not real. Unreal7 (talk) 19:28, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- And also, malformed template the target is a redirect to a dab page of Sam Hunts. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - per In ictu oculi. Pageviews are not everything. However, I'm not going to discount them entirely. InsertCleverPhraseHere 23:41, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support Wow. Will any page EVER be undisambiguated ever with how bizarre these RM discussions are getting? He's the primary topic for sure. He is evidently "highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought" when the reader searches the term. The other Sam Hunts are stubby and don't appear to have left much impact, while I suspect this guy won't soon be forgotten if he dies tomorrow. That "Is"/"Was" test is ridiculously unfair. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support on the basis that the majority of pageviews are for this page. That establishes WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. Obviously, long-term significance is an issue here, but it seems obvious enough that readers on Wikipedia are looking for the musician. clpo13(talk) 23:54, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support per tremendously dominant usage evidence. Why intentional shuffle our readers off to a dab page when the evidence shows they don't want one? Dohn joe (talk) 14:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support. Obviously the singer is the primary topic given the evidence above. Calidum ¤ 02:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support. Iio's insistance and fixation on the WP:IDONTLIKEIT policy is boring. Unreal7 (talk) 19:28, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support - Sorry but I have to support given the evidence AND IMHO pageviews are everything and it kinda supports the whole PRIMARYTOPIC thing, Anyway support. –Davey2010Talk 19:34, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
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Awards section split
[edit]Given the size of the section, I think it needs split off into its own section. Of course that would require the sourcing to be improved, but given the notability of most of them I'm sure that's an easy accomplishment. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support I agree. Seems straightforward.-Yeehaw45 (talk) 21:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Given the lack of opposition, I'm gonna perform the split manually now. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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