Talk:Saint symbolism

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Complete listing of saints

Does anyone know of a good source for more saint symbols? Are there any more?evrik 01:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More sources

This page has some great information that can be added as well. --evrik ^(talk) 20:59, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blessed Virgin Mary

Why is the Blessed Virgin Mary not included in this article? She is the most important of the saints according to Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox teachings. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AGREE! I have been looking for info about symbolic poses of her statues for ages, come here, and can't even find a MENTION of her! Sign me Flabbergasted. 19:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.206.230 (talk)

Mary (mother of Jesus) is in the "see also" section.
Dormition of the Mother of God

--evrik ^(talk) 20:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are many entries from Titles of Mary and Category:Titles_of_Mary that could be added here. I've started the work, but there are many more to be added. --evrik ^(talk) 17:04, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

With due respect, but I regard this as rather confusing, especially as it is all about the same saint but with different clothing/endowment. Most, if not all, of these Marian titles or images have their own articles.--Medusahead (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Each one is slightly different. The Virgen of Guadalupe looks different than Our Lady of Lourdes. This article is about Symbolism and how to recognize people by their attributes. Not sure why this might be confusing. --evrik ^(talk) 15:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just as I wrote: because it's not meant to distinguish different saints by their attributes, it is all the same saint. So in my humble opinion the "different looks" of the BMV should be mentioned in the respective articles. Since there are so many different images and apparitions of Mary, one would not know where to stop. The article Saint symbolism would be completely overloaded. Furthermore, hardly anyone would have difficulties to distinguish the Mother of God from any other saint. Alternatively, an article only about Marian attributes could be a good idea. --Medusahead (talk) 08:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is an article of the Titles of Mary. I since this page focuses on the attributes, this is the appropriate place. --evrik ^(talk) 17:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The evangelists have specific iconographical symbols (lion, bull, eagle, man); as do certain saints, i.e. Joseph (lily), Claire of Assisi (monstrance) to distinguish them (particularly in statues or stained glass windows). The section on Mary is a series of (almost interchangable) descriptions, not attributes. Some of these are nothing more than a local representation of a wider cult, i.e. Aparecida is Mary as the Immaculate Conception. If one were to make a gallery of most of these without an identifying title, I doubt very many people could distinguish one from another. On the other hand, Our Lady of Guadalupe would never be mistaken for Our Lady of Mt Carmel. Manannan67 (talk) 06:27, 12 August 2024

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Expanding the list

In Talk:Saint symbolism/Archive 2 I have placed a box with the attributes of mnay saints noit already on this list. I will move it over as I can. --evrik ^(talk) 19:28, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please make sure to care for the form of this list it means a lot of work to harmonize it with the existing data, thank you. I also wonder if it makes sense to expand the list extensively by saints who seem to have no specific attributes but just a cassock (this could be nearly every priest). --Medusahead (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The cassock issue is one to ponder, have you looked at commons:Category:Religious habits? We may be able to find different examples. --evrik ^(talk) 15:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the integration of the 1600 entries from the list above onto the pages. It got so large, that I had to split the work into four pages. Now, it would be good to start three tasks: 1) citing all the new entries; 2) standardizing the language and the grammar; and better using the Stracke and Rabenstein sources to clean up their many entries. --evrik ^(talk) 15:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]