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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 14, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the German battleship SMS Markgraf is a popular diving site in Scapa Flow, where it was scuttled in 1919?
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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:SMS Markgraf/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer:Ed!(talk) 23:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "the Kaiser removed von Ingenohl from his post on 2 February." - who was he and what was his post? Introduce the name, rank and position here so it doesn't confuse the reader.
  • Also, the name and position of the Kaiser should be introduced here for some context.
  • "Vice Admiral Scheer became Commander in chief..." - what was his first name?
  • "...when Admiral von Pohl became too ill to continue in that post.[7]" - what sickness was he suffering from? This should be clarified.
  • "At around 19:30, Jellicoe's main force of battleships entered the battle..." - same for him. Full name and rank is needed.
  • "At 05:06, Markgraf and several other battleships fired on an imaginary submarine.[44]" - this doesn't sound very encyclopedic. Did they fire on something they thought was a submarine? What was it and why did they think it was a sub?
    • Throughout the battle both sides repeatedly thought they saw submarines attacking and fired on them - a number of sources refer to them specifically as "imaginary submarines", including Tarrant and Campbell. As far as I know there's no explanation other than jumpy nerves. Parsecboy (talk) 02:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "For most of 1917, Markgraf was occupied with guard duties in the North Sea, interrupted only by a refit period in January and periodic unit training in the Baltic.[4]" - what was refitted or improved during this action?
  • "their crews were reduced to 200 officers and men." - needs a rewording, it implies the officers are not men.
  • ISBNs need to be consistent, either all of them 13-digit or 10-digit.
  • The "Campbell" notes need to be clarified. Right now it's impossible to tell which ones refer to the 1998 book or the 1987 book.

GA is on hold pending a few changes. —Ed!(talk) 23:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very good. This article Passes GA now. Well done. —Ed!(talk) 05:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor quibbles

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If the ship was named after the ruler of Baden, who was a grand duke, why would it have borne the lesser title of "Margrave" ( which is the normal english rendering of the german title Markgraf )? Also, the equivalent title in England would be Marquess, not Marquis.Eregli bob (talk) 07:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, perhaps it was a reference to a earlier ruler of the Margraviate of Baden. In any case, it's cited specifically in the Hildebrand, Rohr & Steinmetz book. You're right on the Marquess bit though. Parsecboy (talk) 13:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great article

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Thank you for contributing this to the encylopedia. It was an enjoyable read.--174.44.83.4 (talk) 06:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Low background steel

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Spital8katz took out the part about low-background steel, because it's wrong. The steel is low background not because it's been under the water all these years, but because it was manufactured before WWII. I don't have a copy of Butler, either he was confused or misquoted. I suggest finding a new source. Here's one: [1] Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've corrected it. Butler has this to say:
"Apart from the occasional piece of radiation-free steel, essential

to certain types of scientific instruments unavailable in steel produced since the explosion of the first atomic device, recovered from time to time, the wrecks are left undisturbed."

The sentence about the depth must have been a legacy from before I rewrote this article. Parsecboy (talk) 22:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, thanks! Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]