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Daiquiri to Gerardo

I hear a sample of this song title was called "Chamo Candela" by a Venezuelan Ritmo Group "Daiquiri" that was taken from the 1984 album "La Casa del Ritmo" and Gerardo had a rap lyric with "Rico Suave" that composed by Gerardo, Alberto Slezynger, Rosa Soy & Christian Warren.

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Michigan

He's from Michigan? Why, then, does Gerardo's wikipage say he's from Ecuador and he moved to California when he was twelve? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindsay123 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 21:16, 27 December 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Rico Suave (song) → Rico Suave – Primary topic. Of the three Rico Suave articles, one is a redirect, one may or may not be primarily known as Rico Suave and the last received 19.3K views in three months. Relisted. BDD (talk) 21:55, 17 December 2012 (UTC) Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 01:49, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment that doesn't concern the usage of "Rico Suave", since it doesn't matter if it's a redirect or not, or even if it's the primary name of someone with another name, it only matters if the term "Rico Suave" is primarily associated with which. -- 70.24.250.26 (talk) 03:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose ~~"Rico Suave" should either redirect to the wrestler Rico Suave, and the disambiguation page moved to Rico Suave (disambiguation). OR,~~ be kept the way it is. This song should not be moved. "Rico Suave" is a frequently used slang term as well. -- 70.24.250.26 (talk) 03:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why should Rico Suave redirect to the wrestler? I cannot read your mind. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 08:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update keep as it is I thought I remembered the wrestler as originating the term "Rico Suave", but I can't find stuff to support my position, so in lieu of that, I've modified my position to keep as is. -- 70.24.250.26 (talk) 11:45, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure why being the originator of the term would give someone entitlement to it on Wikipedia. Barack Obama, Sr. for example. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 17 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: no consensus that there is a primary topic, and thus no consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 02:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rico Suave (song) → Rico Suave
Rico Suave → Rico Suave (disambiguation)

– Last discussed in 2012. Today, we can see that the song by Gerardo continues to have enduring popularity and long-term significance, more that the other topics at the disambiguation page. Pageviews are at about 80%. 162 etc. (talk) 17:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Dantus21 (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nothing changed. Real life people. It's a song. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Clear primary topic. Station1 (talk) 06:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Rico_Suave indicates that in December '23, there was no real strong preference among readers between three topics. I checked the clickstream archive:

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August: clickstream-enwiki-2023-08.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(song) link 90; clickstream-enwiki-2023-08.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(wrestler) link 39; clickstream-enwiki-2023-08.tsv:Rico_Suave List_of_Hannah_Montana_characters link 26
September: clickstream-enwiki-2023-09.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(song) link 56; clickstream-enwiki-2023-09.tsv:Rico_Suave List_of_Hannah_Montana_characters link 22; clickstream-enwiki-2023-09.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(wrestler) link 23
October: clickstream-enwiki-2023-10.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(song) link 50; clickstream-enwiki-2023-10.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(wrestler) link 32; clickstream-enwiki-2023-10.tsv:Rico_Suave List_of_Hannah_Montana_characters link 19
November: clickstream-enwiki-2023-11.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(song) link 50; clickstream-enwiki-2023-11.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(wrestler) link 34; clickstream-enwiki-2023-11.tsv:Rico_Suave List_of_Hannah_Montana_characters link 16
December: clickstream-enwiki-2023-12.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(song) link 34; clickstream-enwiki-2023-12.tsv:Rico_Suave Rico_Suave_(wrestler) link 20; clickstream-enwiki-2023-12.tsv:Rico_Suave List_of_Hannah_Montana_characters link 17

The incoming monthly page views follow much the same trend. 90/230 = ~39%, 56/159 = ~35%, 50/144 = ~35%, 50/139 = ~36%, 34/122 = ~28%. If it's a list of three items, even if it's not sorted by popularity (which we can now fix), it's still fairly trivial for the average reader to find what they're looking for. So on that account I'm not sure why it would be safe to assume that some of the traffic that is not identified is actually for the proposed primary topic. Rather, with numbers as close to the anonymization threshold of 10 per source+destination pair, it's more likely we're not seeing something in the long tail.

If the ratio of incoming views to proposed primary topic clicks in such a short list is consistently less than 40% as we see here, then I don't quite see how the WP:PTOPIC usage criterion is met: highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. You'd have to explain the long-term significance better to influence the apparent lack of primary topic with regard to usage. We can also sort it on top of the list and see if that influences the stats three months from now. (Oppose) --Joy (talk) 10:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose the wrestler may have more long-term significance as it may be reasonable to say a person is more important than a song. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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