Talk:Restaurant rating
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Why is this article overemphasizing North/South Carolina?!
[edit]It seems kind of odd, considering that the Los Angeles County system (and a parallel system in San Diego County) affect a much larger number of people.
In a couple of months I may be in L.A. again for either business or leisure. If no one objects, I plan to get some good shots of the large L.A. County-style signs and put them in this article (and remove or shrink the N.C./S.C. photos). The L.A. County health grade signs are much larger (for easy readability when one is driving by in a vehicle); the grade letter fills most of a 8 1/2 x 11" card. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Sanitation improvement?
[edit]I suggest that Calwatch actually read the Leslie and Jin paper. It is clear that the phenomenon of "grade inflation" occurred with the Los Angeles County placarding system. Consequently, it should not be asserted as fact that "sanitation," even aside from "food safety," was improved by the initiation of grade cards. Armona (talk) 00:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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New version
[edit]During a discussion about the proposed deletion of Quality restaurant I was pointed to this article. Due to the many tages, I decided to merge both articles and rewrite it. The draft of the new version can be found here: User:Night of the Big Wind/Workpage17. Please add your comments, in the best interest of Wikipedia. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- I readded the information about improvement in food safety though. That is clear from the research of Jin and Leslie. Calwatch (talk) 06:28, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- It may be clear, but it is WP:UNDUE. It gives a very local view on the results. Perhaps you should try to make another article about the effects, but on this place it does not fit. Night of the Big Wind talk 10:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree, but if you think we should start an article on sanitation ratings, I'll agree and use additional areas of sanitation, like cruise ship ratings and pool ratings. Otherwise I'll ask for others to chime in as the previous article had this information for some time, and sanitation is an important part of the quality of the restaurant - which at least warrants half the article. Los Angeles County was the biggest jurisdiction to implement food ratings and so there are several peer reviewed journal articles on the effects. Added back. Calwatch (talk) 03:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- Reduced it a bit. But please notice that the world is bigger then Los Angeles. Night of the Big Wind talk 12:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree, but if you think we should start an article on sanitation ratings, I'll agree and use additional areas of sanitation, like cruise ship ratings and pool ratings. Otherwise I'll ask for others to chime in as the previous article had this information for some time, and sanitation is an important part of the quality of the restaurant - which at least warrants half the article. Los Angeles County was the biggest jurisdiction to implement food ratings and so there are several peer reviewed journal articles on the effects. Added back. Calwatch (talk) 03:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- It may be clear, but it is WP:UNDUE. It gives a very local view on the results. Perhaps you should try to make another article about the effects, but on this place it does not fit. Night of the Big Wind talk 10:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
List of restaurant guides
[edit]At this time, no quantitative inclusion criteria has been established for this list (other than edit summary reason of "well known", which is a measurement that can vary person-to-person). Until such time as a different sourced and verifiable inclusion criteria measure can be established, I agree with using the general notability measurement for Wikipedia as the inclusion criteria. As such, I've restored the version of the list as of 21:26, 12 August 2013 by user:Discospinster. It's a fair starting point until consensus can establish a different agreed upon criteria. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, I have removed the American Automobile Association too, as it has no article to prove its notability as restaurant guide. The Banner talk 22:19, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- It appears to have one (just wasn't wikified in the list) at American Automobile Association.
- If additional entries should be added ... is there an objective inclusion criteria other than notability that we can use? I can't think of one off-hand, so looking for suggestions for discussion here. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- That article has not even a section for its restaurant work. The Banner talk 22:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, I have removed the American Automobile Association too, as it has no article to prove its notability as restaurant guide. The Banner talk 22:19, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Ever tried a search on Wikipedia for KnoopjeLos.nl? The Banner talk 22:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia can't be a source for itself - so that doesn't work as an inclusion criteria.
- Note that having an article isn't what I'm saying is a good starting point - but instead meeting the notability threshold (either WP:CORP, or even the general WP:N). As such, having third-party reliable sources would be adequate, even if those have not yet been compiled into an article about the guide.
- As to the AAA, the article is poorly structured. It does mention restaurant ratings, but only in passing and not called out in its own section. Although if we're going to use reliable sources - then I agree that for now it should be left out as the current sourcing is a primary source for the one paragraph that mentions its restaurant rating system. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Still I consider the amputation as an example the traditional pro-North-American-POV. The Banner talk 22:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- That's a bit of a tangent, and not supported by the facts. But if you want to argue that Wikipedia's notability guidelines are tilted towards a North-American POV, then the correct place to discuss that would be at WT:N, not here. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Still I consider the amputation as an example the traditional pro-North-American-POV. The Banner talk 22:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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