Talk:Renaldo Nehemiah

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How can Nehemiah have achieved 12.9s 110m hurdles at high school, years before breaking the world record by going under 13s?Inizen (talk) 19:15, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

High school hurdles are a different height than the open hurdles. Trackinfo (talk) 20:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some changes to articles, including adding citations (from an interview with Nehemiah) and removing his splits from his performances at Penn Relays, and other less-than-relevant information. The section 'Career Highlights for 110 m hurdles' needs to go. In addition, the quotes about Pat Connolly should be cited. Daskos99 (talk) 19:08, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is your logic for removing details of his world records? Also, his Penn state performances are legendary in the sport. You have now distilled it to "he won two relays and was named the MVP". The highlights table is relevant too since it explains his loss of form as he attempted to cross over to football. Just adding his PB's gives no sense of his career. David D. (Talk) 03:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed his performances from Penn because I couldn't find a source for it and in accordance with Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons, it should not be moved to the talk page, only removed. I'm sure you could replace the highlights table, but when I removed it, it was in need of a lot of formatting and needed citations. Your point about a loss of form after football is good, you should include that. Daskos99 (talk) 00:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was based on an interview of Nehemiah by Walt Murphy. http://www.waltmurphystrackworld.com/features.html http://www.waltmurphystrackworld.com/penn/nehemiah.html Walt Murphy is a respected journalist and statistician in the sport of track and field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.163.145 (talk) 17:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World's Highest Paid Athlete?

Track and Field in the late 70s and early 80s was famous for its under the table payments to amateurs. I remember reading that Nehemiah probably made more than $1 million dollars in 1980 or '81 (perhaps both) - most of it during his summer European campaign. Meet organizers in Europe frequently paid large bonuses for world records and Nehemiah managed to break the WR several times during that summer. Magic Johnson signed the first $1 million dollar a year contract in the NBA in 1980. I don't know if any boxers were making anything like that. Here's the only article that I can find that gives any support to this claim: http://articles.latimes.com/1985-05-04/sports/sp-20694_1_renaldo-nehemiah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.28.150.70 (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ali and Frazier each made 2.5 million in 1971 from one fight. Don't know the purse for the second one but the Ali-Foreman fight in 1974 was 5 million split. There was a story that Frazier turned down 3 million for an Ali fight to lose to George. So there's at least three athaletes making twice as much five to ten years earlier. Therefore, claim = false, bzzzzt :) 203.160.86.28 (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peacock

This article is absolutely full of peacock terms. Was it written by a relative of the subject? Japanscot (talk) 20:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Career update

Responding to a note, I could not find a current listing for him as a manager or agent at Octagon, but did find one at the Association of Athletics Managers, an international agency based in Sweden. Activist (talk) 07:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonfree image fair use justification

I think that use of the file File:Renaldo Nehemiah Track & Field News.jpg is justified in this context, because it is the subject of sourced discussion in The New York Times. The photo discussed in that article is the same photo depicted on the cover of the shown issue of Track & Field News. --Habst (talk) 20:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since you acknowledge this isn't the magazine cover discussed in the source, there's no justification for using it. A trivial discussion of the image is also inadequate to justify nonfree use, just as saying Meryl Streep wore a red dress to the Academy Awards can't justify inclusion of a nonfree image of Streep in the red dress. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 11:37, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, thanks for your comments. I do agree we should be very careful about nonfree images in general, and I acknowledge that maybe this isn't the best one to use in this article, but I don't think it violates the NFCC. I don't think the discussion is similar to the red dress discussion, because that could be seen as routine coverage while I'm not aware of any other T&FN covers with a reflective pose. I admit that I am not 100% sure about my interpretation of the source, but I do think that it is referring to the T&FN cover specifically and not any other cover. As Nehemiah is long retired and I have looked extensively to no avail for any free images of him competing, I think a more clear-cut case would be to find a fair-use image of him competing under the NFCC anyways. So hopefully we can do that in the next few days. --Habst (talk) 19:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]