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This is a quote from art magazine about a show. I can’t see how it deserve so much space in the article. Seems to be there in order to promote political POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.13.249.201 (talk) 04:06, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also should read more in guidelines and specifically WP:LONGQUOTE 176.12.156.41 (talk) 15:16, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pasting removed content for discussion

a section got removed without discussion, so pasting here:

USS Liberty incident
James Bamford, an author that has extensively chronicled the history and operations of the National Security Agency, posits that the massacre may have served as a casus belli for the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Bamford theorizes that the Israel Defense Forces were concerned that the USS Liberty, a signals intelligence collection ship, may have collected evidence of the massacre and was thus attacked in an effort to suppress the evidence.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]

^ Bamford, James (2007-12-18). Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency. Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. ISBN 978-0-307-42505-8.
^ Risen, James (2001-04-23). "Book Says Israel Intended 1967 Attack on U.S. Ship". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2023-06-15.
^ "CNN.com - Israel's 1967 attack on U.S. ship deliberate, book says - April 23, 2001". www.cnn.com. Retrieved 2023-06-15.
^ Pensack, Miriam (2017-06-06). "Fifty Years Later, NSA Keeps Details of Israel's USS Liberty Attack Secret". The Intercept. Retrieved 2023-06-15.
^ "Remember the USS Liberty? The US and Israel wish you didn't". Middle East Monitor. 2014-06-04. Retrieved 2023-06-15.
^ Oren, Michael B. (2001-07-23). "Unfriendly Fire". The New Republic. ISSN 0028-6583. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

I'm undecided on keeping it, I just don't like when things disappear without discussion.

FourPi (talk) 00:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it with the comment "it isn't fringe that the Liberty was attacked on purpose, but it is certainly fringe that this was the reason". The relevant guidelines are WP:EXTRAORDINARY and WP:FRINGE. This is one author's proposal for why the Liberty was attacked, and there is absolutely no evidence for it. We don't present every conjecture anyone makes about the topics we write about. Zero^talk 01:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zero0000 Sorry. I wasn't sure whether to tag you or not? both options seemed awkward. I didn't want reprimand because I didn't particularly object, but not tagging you also seems weird? Is there a general rule on it? If I want to discuss content rather than editors, is it ok to just do what I did here, mention the content only, and just let the person join the discussion if they want to? Or do most editors prefer to be notified? FourPi (talk) 00:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FourPi: There is no rule about this, even informally. If you would like to hear the opinion of a particular editor on something, it is fine to ping them. (Important exception: WP:CANVASS). However, people will get annoyed if you ping them repeatedly in the same conversation, so generally I would recommend that you ping them once to bring them to the conversation and after that assume they are already watching. Zero^talk 02:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Bamford, James (2007-12-18). Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency. Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. ISBN 978-0-307-42505-8.

[2] Risen, James (2001-04-23). "Book Says Israel Intended 1967 Attack on U.S. Ship". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

[3] "CNN.com - Israel's 1967 attack on U.S. ship deliberate, book says - April 23, 2001". www.cnn.com. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

[4] Pensack, Miriam (2017-06-06). "Fifty Years Later, NSA Keeps Details of Israel's USS Liberty Attack Secret". The Intercept. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

[5] "Remember the USS Liberty? The US and Israel wish you didn't". Middle East Monitor. 2014-06-04. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

[6] Oren, Michael B. (2001-07-23). "Unfriendly Fire". The New Republic. ISSN 0028-6583. Retrieved 2023-06-15.

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