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A fact from Quintus Quincy Quigley appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Quintus Quincy Quigley preferred Angles to a ring?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Quintus Quincy Quigley.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Quintus Quincy Quigley

... that Quintus Quincy Quigley (pictured) preferred Angles to a ring?

Source: The Life and Times of Quintus Quincy Quigley -- "The Quigley’s used the ring money to purchase the land. The house they built was called “The Angles.”

Reviewed: Alien Blue
Comment: Getting the nomination started while it's timely. The proposed hook is short as the subject's name is quite intriguing to start with and so it's best not to bury it in detail.

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 128 past nominations.

Andrew🐉(talk) 23:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I am taking this on because I love the quirkiness of the hook. The article is long enough and was nominated in time to count as new. I do have some issue with sourcing and possibly neutrality, however. One of the sources is a self-published genealogy website, while another mentions slave ownership not found in the article. Also, it is claimed in this book, apparently by the man who had Quigley's journal published, that Quigley was a state senator. If true, this would be a major omission. Surtsicna (talk) 21:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: Thanks for the review. Regarding your points:

The Kentucky Kindred site seems reasonably reliable as it provides copious evidence such as newspaper cuttings. Perhaps they can be cited directly. I'll take another look.
The slave ownership detail seems to arise from the census returns. It didn't seem interesting but I can add more detail of his household if you like.
I saw that state senator point and used it initially but it didn't check out. His obituary in the Paducah Evening Sun says that "He was the first city attorney ... This was the only public office he ever held." I didn't find any other reference to him as a state senator and suppose he would have left more trace if he was one.

I'll make another pass through the article and then ping for a check. More anon.

Andrew🐉(talk) 18:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right about the census returns data not being necessarily relevant. That would then apply to everything from it, however. I would suggest citing the newspapers instead of the genealogy site. I too could not find anything about his supposed senatorship but the fact that the publisher of his journal mentioned it threw me off. Surtsicna (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: I've updated the article to address these points.

The Kentucky Kindred source is still used as it's a good general reference but it is not cited alone for anything and the citations related to the hook are now to the specific newspapers.
The slave holdings recorded in the census are included
The NHRP nomination has been added as a source as it contains lots of good detail. Note that it states In time he was to become a highly successful attorney, "eschewing politics and all other interests which would detract from his success as an attorney" (Levin, p. 407). There were two exceptions, however. He did accept the office of trustee of the town of Paducah and later served as city attorney. This cites Levin, H. (1897), The Lawyers and Lawmakers of Kentucky, Chicago: Lewis Publishing, pp. 407–408, 421–422. I've not looked at that yet and so may do more but wanted to keep the nomination moving, ok?

Andrew🐉(talk) 10:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That covers all of my nitpickings! Surtsicna (talk) 19:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Architectural style

While there may be a piece of metal that claims this house is a "good example of Greek Revival architecture", that is directly contradicted by the NPS cite, which rightly describes it as an eclectic. Qwirkle (talk) 23:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added more descriptions to make the range of opinions clear. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The range of expert opinions being a great deal narrower, is there any good reason to to re-add the tag?Qwirkle (talk) 03:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]