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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Park, Meadhbh (2022). "Fight Club: Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys, and Male Supremacism". In Carian, Emily K.; DiBranco, Alex; Ebin, Chelsea (eds.). Male Supremacism in the United States: From Patriarchal Traditionalism to Misogynist Incels and the Alt-Right. Abingdon, England: Routledge. doi:10.4324/9781003164722. ISBN 978-1-0005-7622-1.

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Section sizes

Section size for Proud Boys (47 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	27,364	27,364
History and organization	24,253	61,681
Membership and doctrine	8,222	8,994
Gender and sexuality	772	772
Leadership	9,528	9,528
Connection with Roger Stone	8,438	8,438
2020 presidential debate	7,393	7,393
Foreign disinformation during the 2020 presidential campaign	3,075	3,075
Activities and events	104	56,709
2017–2018	16,418	16,418
2018 Metropolitan Republican Club Incident	1,981	13,382
Protestors	1,848	1,848
Incident	5,726	5,726
Aftermath	3,827	3,827
2019 Demand Free Speech rally	3,599	3,599
End Domestic Terrorism rally 2019	4,841	4,841
2020 COVID-19 misinformation	3,883	3,883
Anti-BLM protests	7,033	7,033
2020 church attacks	7,449	7,449
Participation in the January 6 United States Capitol attack	26,964	62,798
Indictments for conspiracy	28,171	28,171
Convictions for seditious conspiracy	7,663	7,663
Post-2021 actions	24	9,528
Alabama	2,870	2,870
Portland, Oregon march	2,178	2,178
Florida	1,392	1,392
California	1,676	1,676
Split with neo-Nazis	779	779
Trump conviction	609	609
Response	15	19,726
Government	19	12,676
United States	1,980	1,980
Canada	9,625	9,625
New Zealand	1,052	1,052
Southern Poverty Law Center lawsuit	4,496	4,496
Lawsuits	2,379	2,379
Social media bans	160	160
Subgroups	16	1,444
Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights	400	400
Canadian chapters	1,028	1,028
Symbolism	1,422	11,012
Association with Fred Perry clothing	4,776	4,776
MAGA hats	2,023	2,023
6MWE	2,791	2,791
See also	218	218
References	30	30
External links	1,926	1,926
Total	252,436	252,436

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I request adding a link to "street gang" when it's mentioned at top of the page. I think it's beneficial to the reader to be able to be suggested to know more about street gangs there. JaumeAlcazo (talk) 10:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proud boys

Please see the FAQ at the top of this page, there are substantive reliable sources that identify them as a neo-fascist organization. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 15:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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They are not fascist. They also have diverse members. You can edit and make suggestions on wikipedia pages except this one because wikipedia knows their wrong 😑 2603:7080:82F0:9350:CD31:80F7:417C:A10F (talk) 07:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedia Britannica: Proud Boys, (neo)fascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. DN (talk) 08:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful if you could provide an expert source, such as a textbook on the U,S. far right. TFD (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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