Talk:Physician supply
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Don't Delete
[edit]I'm adding news links that support the statements. PMG123 (talk) 22:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
change capitals letters
[edit]The first letters (D & S) of title Doctor Shortage are in capital letters. This article can't be found with a small-letter search. I don't know how to change it to small letters. Wikipedia please change title to small letters.PMG123 (talk) 01:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Many Links to News Websites
[edit]Don't delete this website because it is well supported by many legitimate news articles. If parts of it are POV, then edit those parts instead.76.93.80.45 (talk) 21:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
"The number of medical students is highly controlled by the funding provided by the federal government for medical education. This is the most important limitation in the supply of physicians, according to the AMA." I received this reply from the American Medical Assossiation when I e-mailed them through thier official site. PMG123 (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Keep and improve
[edit]This seems to be just the sort of topic that should be in WP. Howver, it doesn't consider the shortage of qualified doctors in the economically deprived regions of the world. Vernon White . . . Talk 10:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Might put things in perspective to have comparative stats on Doc per 10,000 people. Vernon White . . . Talk 19:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Now that it's not deleted…
[edit]This has survived deletion, but where do we go now? I'm going to start by suggesting move the article to "Physician shortage". Novangelis (talk) 15:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've set that up as a redirect, but "shortage" isn't really the operative word. The US doesn't have a general shortage at the moment, and it had an actual surplus in the 1980s. (That's where some of these restrictive funding problems came from.) I've gone with Physician supply for now, but I'm open to other suggestions. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Ugh
[edit]I've done some clean up, but a good deal of this was pure WP:SYNTH violations. I pulled a bunch of refs to "sources" that were satirical, or blogs, or just plain didn't mention any concept related to the supply and demand for physicians. I'd be happy to have someone else do the next pass; I expect that the rest of this article is at least as bad as the part that I started to deal with. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Discrimination
[edit]The source named by the anon was off-topic ("Decreasing the number of physicians trained"). Medical societies don't determine who gets trained, and membership is entirely optional. (Four out of five physicians in the US don't belong to the "all-powerful" AMA.)
Furthermore, the linked editorial didn't actually say what was claimed here. I didn't see a single sentence about the medical schools discriminating against people of color; it was all about how the AMA treated licensed physicians after they finished training.
I've changed the ref to a proper paper in the same issue of the journal, which addresses the Flexner report, which proposed closing all non-university-affiliated medical schools, which included nearly all of the schools that admitted people of color, women, and less wealthy people. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Next round of editing
[edit]I took the "ugh" challenge with another round of editing, particularly with a more worldwide perspective. I edited the lead statement and some of the section titles to better refer to the new title of the article ("physician supply" as opposed to "physician shortage"). Many of the references remain blogs rather than credible evidence base, but I tied to edit the text for better neutrality of tone and specification where a single/untested perspective was being raised. Guptan99 (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2011 (UTC)