Talk:Pavel Kushnir

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The result was: promoted by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy talk 06:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Russian pianist Pavel Kushnir was arrested for anti-war videos posted in a YouTube channel with only five subscribers, and became the first political prisoner to die in a dry hunger strike in modern Russia? Source: [1], first paragraph: "Pianist Pavel Kushnir died on July 28 after a dry hunger strike in a pretrial detention center in the Far Eastern city of Birobidzhan. He was 39 years old. The musician was detained in late May by FSB officers - he was accused of publicly calling for terrorism because of anti-war videos that he published on his YouTube channel with five subscribers."
  [2] - for "the first political prisoner to die in a dry hunger strike in modern Russia", article says that the last person who died of a hunger strike was Anatoly Marchenko in USSR in 1986.
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Created by Artem.G (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Artem.G (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - 1986 is modern though? Personally I would revise the hook (see below), as the first part is more interesting than the first person to die on a particular type of hunger strike in 35 years or so.
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - I don't think we can run "only" as it would be editorializing

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Sad story (t · c) buidhe 06:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Russian pianist Pavel Kushnir died on a hunger strike after his arrest for anti-war videos posted on a YouTube channel with five subscribers? (t · c) buidhe 06:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Hey, thanks for the review! In 1986 it was still the USSR, and "modern" was about the Russian Federation. But yeah, an agree that it's not necessary; I think ALT1 is fine, thanks for copyediting.

with ALT1 (t · c) buidhe 02:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

More info from his Youtube videos and the BBC article

His YT channel (https://www.youtube.com/@kristenseberg/videos) is available and it contains a wealth of other information. He does call for a violent revolution in Russia - which is presumably why he was charged with 'advocating terrorism' - as well as for a world revolution against what he calls fascism (in the video "Ноэлианская речь агента Малдера", i.e. 'Agent Mulder's Noelian Speech'). He also says that heterosexual sex and marriage are fascist, pagan and anti-Christian, that in the Kingdom of Heaven heterosexual marriage will be banned, while homosexual marriage will be allowed, and that the traditional family is a hell and a concentration camp (in the video "Речь иноагента Малдера", 'Foreign agent Mulder's speech'). In spite of his Jewish origin, he appears to consider himself a (Russian Orthodox?) Christian, but also to be on the side of the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War and believes that God, seeing their sincerity and the nobleness of their cause, has made sure that there is no fascism in Spain today (in "Обращение к антифашистам", 'An address to antifascists'). Another cool fact is that in 2005, when asked which melody he would not play under any circumstances, he said 'the Russian national anthem' (https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/credd47zq88o). 62.73.72.3 (talk) 12:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Inaccuracy of the DYK hook

In fact, considering the above, the formulation of the hook 'arrest for anti-war videos' seems misleading. This makes it sound as if he was arrested just because of the fact that the videos were anti-war. While his videos do indeed contain anti-war pronouncements, and I believe that you can indeed be arrested and imprisoned for that in Russia at present, the charges against him were not for being anti-war, but for advocating 'terrorist activity' (which the Russian prosecutors appear to have equated, as state representatives often do, with any struggle seeking to seize political power by force). This agrees the fact that the only 'wrongdoing' mentioned in the original report about his arrest in a pro-government Telegram channel was that he was 'calling for the overthrow of the constitutional order of Russia by means of a revolution' in his YT videos (as reported in the BBC article). And, as mentioned in the above section, it's not as if these accusations were obviously baseless, which would make the positing of a different motive necessary - he does call for a revolution by force in the video "Ноэлианская речь агента Малдера". 62.73.72.3 (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)