Talk:Our Lady Star of the Sea and St Winefride, Amlwch/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 17:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   As of 2010, the church is closed (and has been since 2004) because of structural problems This statement will soon be dated. better you just say that it has been closed since 2004. Y

   Tweaked. Bencherlite^Talk 14:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

   The parish priest is Father Michael Ryan... How come, if the church is closed? Y

   Why shouldn't it have a parish priest? The parish remains, even if the church is temporarily closed until repairs are carried out. Bencherlite^Talk 14:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

   Understood. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   The architect was Giuseppe Rinvolucri, an Italian engineer from Piedmont. He had been a prisoner of war held in Wales, Italy was allied to Britain and France in WWI. Needs explanation of why he was a prisoner of war? Y

   References appear OK, several repeat the information that Rinvolucri was a prisoner of war, but without explanation. I found one oblique reference in a Google search[1] to his having been interned or subjected to restrictions in WWII, as many Italians were. Perhaps this is the source of the confusion?

   Well, as CADW (a high-quality source) says he came to Wales as a POW before later settling down, we may be in a "verifiability not truth" issue here. I can't find anything about why he was a POW, but obviously he can't have been a WWII POW who later settled in Wales, as this is a 1930s design. I'd be surprised if "interned" had been muddled up with "POW", since the two concepts are very different. Bencherlite^Talk 14:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

   I think it would be better to omit this statement as it is clearly incorrect. I have asked for opinions at WT:WikiProject Military history#Help requested with Italian prisoners of war during World war One (1914-18). Jezhotwells (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

   Ok, I have found out a little more. Rinvolucri's son, Mario, states that his father fought against the Austro-Hungarians, i.e. on the Italian (Allied) side.[] He states that his father was an immigrant.[2]. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

   OK, well, the easiest thing to do is to remove it and see if anything better comes up in the future. Perhaps if I make it to Amlwch from my end of Anglesey I might find out more. Bencherlite^Talk 10:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   On hold for seven days for above issues to be resolved. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

   Ok, I am now happy to pass this as a Good Article. Congratulations. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)