Talk:Ottawa/Archives/2006

OttawaGasPrices.com

Added link to OttawaGasPrices.com Spinboy 19:06, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

We tend to be very selective about external links in general they should be specifically about the topic at hand, not a sub-topic such as gas prices. We also look askance at links to any commercial sites as we have long been plagued by spammers. - SimonP 19:11, Aug 29, 2004 (UTC)

This reminded me of a wonderful site: http://ottawastart.com/ that has been there forever with little notice. I found a reference there to http://www.weekend-ontario.com/christmas/farmsottawa.php that might come in handy for some Ottawans. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Ottawa

Wikipedians interested in Ottawa are invited to visit WikiProject Ottawa, a collaboration to improve Ottawa-related content on Wikipedia. -Joshuapaquin 23:39, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Early Discussion

I added a reference to the City's bilingualism policy. Since Cafemusique's 2003 comment below, the province amended the City of Ottawa Act in 2005 (reference: s. 11.1, http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/99c14e_e.htm#BK14) to require the City to have a policy, which it already had (reference: http://www.ottawa.ca/inside_govt/policies/policy_en.shtml). By "downloading" the decision to the City, the legislative amendment effectively renders the City "official bilingual" pursuant to the City's current policy (until such time as Council decides to amend its policy to restrict the use of one of the languages), even if the Province and the City have carefully avoided the use of this contentious term. - user:Skeezix1000

Are those "speak French" numbers for monolingual Francophones; people who are fluent in French, whether or not they speak another language; people whose first language is French; or something else (or a combination)? Vicki Rosenzweig

I don't know. My guess is those whose first language is French, or those who speak fluent French. The proportion of French speakers is higher not just because it is across from Quebec but also because of the huge bilingual federal government workforce. - montréalais

Just changed the term "officially bilingual." From what I recall of the coverage on local media of the amalgamation in 2001, only the province can make the city of Ottawa officially bilingual and it has (to the best of my knowledge) refused to do so. (References: City Manager's Report, dated April 2001 on Ottawa's bilingualism policy, and current consolidation of City of Ottawa Act, 1999) Cafemusique 20:46 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

Deleted Tom Cruise link. According to the site I found [1], he only attended high school for a year or less in Ottawa, which does not seem enough of a link to consider his as being "from Ottawa." - Cafemusique 16:58 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Tom Cruise was in Ottawa for well over a year. He attended Henry Munro Middle School and Colonel By Secondary School while he lived in Beacon Hill. I'm going to re-add him to the list. mpiff 02:21, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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I've moved the lists of churches and schools to their own pages: List of Ottawa, Ontario churches and List of Ottawa, Ontario schools. They seemed to be taking a lot of space, without fitting in with the article. - Cafemusique 09:50 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Oh my...is it really going to be necessary to write articles about all those Ottawa neighbourhoods? Adam Bishop 00:11, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Of course :D Why not? look at all those darn US community places. Earl Andrew 02:46, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Yeah...people should stop justifying making even more articles based on what has happened with the US stuff, and instead concentrate on getting rid of that stuff :) Adam Bishop 06:19, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hahaha well my opinion is it's all important, just not yet. If you think the neighbourhoods are taking up too much space, we can put them on a seperate page like the list of Ottawa, Ontario churches or list of Ottawa, Ontario schools Earl Andrew 06:23, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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It appears that the coat of arms is wrong. Speaking with the Canadian Heraldic Authority, I find that it was one of the symbols that was considered by the transitional committee, but in the end, city council requested that the former coat of arms of the city of Ottawa, granted in 1954, be re-granted to the amalgamated city, which was done in 2001. - Montrealais

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Does anyone have any evidence to support the claim that Bryan Adams is "from Ottawa"? Everything I can find suggests he was born in Kingston, Ontario, spent most of his childhood travelling around Europe and eventually settled in Vancouver, with no mention of Ottawa..... Cambyses 15:46, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

In the absence of dissent, have now removed him! Best wishes, Cambyses 18:24, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

• http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/adams_bryan/bio.jhtml has the following text: "From Portugal, the family briefly moved back to Ottawa, and then went to Tel Aviv." and then later "In the mid-'70s, his parents separated, and he returned to Ottawa with his mother and younger brother before settling permanently in Vancouver". There was a story floating around the neighborhood when I was growing up in the eighties that Adams attended my middle school (D. Aubrey Moodie Intermediate School) however I don't know this for sure Dze27 02:31, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

Venice of the North?

Looking at List of city nicknames, I see that Ottawa is listed as being nicknamed Venice of the North. Personally, I have never heard anyone refer to Ottawa Venice of the North. I hardly think that one canal makes the city a rival for Venice. However, if someone thinks that this is indeed a common nickname, I'd like to hear about it. Peregrine981 08:27, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

Just echoing that I've never heard it either. - Cafemusique 10:51, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Likewise, I've never heard the term applied to Ottawa. I think it is sometimes used to describe Amsterdam (which not only has more canals than Ottawa, but is also further north! :-). Cambyses 17:39, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have heard it before, but only applied by enthusiastic tourism boosters. It shouldn't be in here. -Joshuapaquin 21:11, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the name 'Venice of the North' is more commonly used as a nickname for St. Petersburg, Russia.--FreshFruitsRule 19:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

FreshFruitsRule is most likely correct. The title on this website- http://album.physcon.ru/venicenorth/ - is Venice Of The North. I found it while searching Venice Of The North on Google.

Loghead1 22:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Famous People

The famous people list is much too long. This kind of trivia should not be so thorough on the front page. I am from Ottawa, and I haven't heard of half those people.

Agreed, I have moved it to a separate List of people from Ottawa article. - SimonP 20:52, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Images

The Sparks Street Murphy-Gamble department building photo was originally labelled as having been taken in 1940 but both movies (Black Pirates, Thunder Pass) clearly visible on the Centre cinema marquee in the photo according to IMDB.com are both dated as having been released in 1954. In other words, dating a photo accurately doesn't get any easier than this.

How much is too much? We're at ten now, not including the infobox. -Joshuapaquin 18:50, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

If we add more depth to the article, it won't be a problem. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I personally think you can never have too many pictures of Ottawa. :) --24.200.35.253 06:40, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

the images around the geography section seem to be overlapping and screwing up the location of the text.. at least they are for me, in firefox. i tried to fix it but i didnt really know how and could only make it worse. can someone do something about this? --Someones life 23:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Here's a happy solution I've seen from other pages: Create a new section at the bottom (above External Links) called either "Additional Images" or "gallery" and create a photo gallery. They work quite well. Whenever I see an article that looks to cluttered with photos (but with plenty of notable photos) I create a gallery at the bottom. It's the happy medium between "this looks like a mess" and "the more photos the merrier" Bobak 20:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Latitude/Longitude

The infobox gives two different sets of coordinates (45 22N 75 43W and 45 24N 75 40W). Is one of these just plain wrong, or do they use different centres? The CIA World Factbook gives a third value of 45 25N 75 40W.

--Nucleusboy 01:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I like the second one, especially since it is linked. So I was bold and removed the first one -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 02:05, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

EDIT:They use different centres -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 02:06, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

The centre of Downtown is at 45 25 N / 75 42 W according to my map. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:43, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Culture

I'm going to start putting together a Culture section, modelled after the one in the Toronto entry. Suggestions and contributions would be welcomed. Twiin 10:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Great Fire of 1900

I was just reading an update of the Lebreton Flats article that refers to the Great fire of 1900. I came here looking for more info, and find no mention of that fire. Can anyone add anything? Ground Zero | t 19:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I was the one that did that update, and have not been able to find a page on the fire! Considering how much impact it had on the city at the time it really should have a write-up. I may just do that at some point... Mark R. drumbent Jan. 25 2006

We actually have a stub at 1900 Hull-Ottawa fire, though I couldn't find much on the subject when I was writing it. - SimonP 04:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I just found it, though had to use Google, as Wiki couldn't find it! I'll add more info when I can track it down. Thanks, Mark drumbent Jan. 25 2006

oh, and I just added a link to it at the Lebreton page. Mark

Thanks muchly! Ground Zero | t 12:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

On my To Do list, perhaps a separate page on Ottawa's history? There are lots of interesting facts, figures, and tales to tell. Mark drumbent Jan. 26 2006

Role of NCC

New to WP, and my edit was reverted on this article, but I think the article is factually wrong as it stands. I edited the article to remove a reference to Ottawa and Gatineau being within the NCC's jurisdiction. This is because jurisdiction means above in the sense of government. The NCC is not above the cities; it is a crown corporation that manages federal property (e.g. buildings, parks, parliament hill) in the area. user:Skeezix1000 commented on the revert that "Ott + Gat are a CMA" (not sure what this means). I used the word often as roughly equivalent to for many purposes so as to keep the flow of the paragraph and keep my edit small. I want to change the entry back to my version, but suspect that some discussion here might be in order to improve the edit. cmh 04:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

• Hi. I'm happy to discuss the issue and am glad you posted here. I'm not sure what the issue is, however, because the sentence in question does not use the word "jurisdiction", and did not use it before your edit. The sentence talks about the "remit" of the NCC, and the word "remit" was likely used by the original author to avoid any confusion that might arise over the use of the word "jusrisdiction". Your solution was to remove the reference to the NCC entirely, which is not, in my view, satisfactory. Personally, I actually think the word "jurisdiction" is fine in this context, because of the extensive authority and influence of the NCC in land use planning on both sides of the river -- the word is not in any way limited to levels of government, but can refer to any public authority. However, the word is not there, and I don't propose to add it. As for "often" vs. "for many purposes", I made the change because on first glance "often" seemed to impart a subjective view ("people often consider it..."), whereas "for many purposes" seemed to be a more objective anf factual statement ("...for many purposes are considered a single metropolitan area.."). Upon a little more reflection, that's just splitting hairs, and neither term is really accurate. Ottawa-Gatineau IS a single census metropolitan area. Your intent to improve the sentence was a good one, and the sentence structure is probably best simplified by simply avoiding both "often" and "for many purposes" so that it reads: "the two cities are considered a single metropolitan area". Skeezix1000 12:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

  Given it a bit of further thought, perhaps the simple solution is to replace the word "remit" (which isn't quite right in the first place) with "purview" (acc. to Cdn. Oxford "the scope or range of a document, scheme, etc."). So the sentence in question would read: "Although administered separately, the two cities both fall within the purview of the National Capital Commission and are considered a single metropolitan area, called the National Capital Region." Let me know. Skeezix1000 13:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Agree with you about the often/for many purposes so I've made the change to that part of the sentence. You are right about jurisdiction not being in the article of course, must have translated remit to jurisdiction in my head. Re: purview, I still have a problem here because both remit/purview have the supervisory/authoritary connotations and the NCC is neither. It does have de-facto power in the region because it is such a large landowner, but I feel the current wording is a category error... it would be like saying that Sudbury is within Inco's purview because Inco is a major landowner in the region. I would prefer to remove the NCC reference from this area entirely because a more nuanced treatment of the NCC exists under the Notable buildings and institutions section. If we keep NCC in the disputed spot I'd want it to look more like the treatment it's getting down in the NB&I section. cmh 20:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

The National Capital Region is a single metropolitan area in the federal census but not in the official record keeping by the provinces. In the Canadian constitution municipal affairs are a provincial domain and both the province of Ontario and the province of Quebec consider Ottawa to be one municipal area and Gatineau another municipal area. The current wording seems to ignore this completely. --AlainV 01:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect, it's a metropolitan area not because it says so in the federal census, but rather because it meets specific criteria showing that its constituent parts have a high degree of social and economic integration, and this fact is simply recognized by Statscan. The fact that its a single metropolitan area is an economic and social reality, and as such has significant impact on political and administrative decisions in the area on both sides of the river. And as for the Constitution, I'm not too sure how that's relevant, except for the obvious point that these are two separate municipalities. However, the article, as it was written, did not suggest otherwise. Skeezix1000 13:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Good point AlainV. Ok. Frankly, the entire section was in rough shape, with material about various parts of town broken up between the top and the bottom. I've pushed the text around to try to more logically shape the flow of the piece. In so doing, I removed information about the make-up of Gatineau (there is a Gatineau page, after all). Other than that I have not intentionally removed any facts from the article. (I am a bit unsure about the current focus on -- and description of -- the "multiple urban areas" and especially all the populations of the various old municipalities, but I decided to leave that to see if there is agreement on the rest of the stuff first.) I tried to balance the importance Skeezix1000 sees in the NCC material with its formal role vis-a-vis the municipalities. What think you? cmh 04:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

The section reads a thousand times better. Good job. I might have worded the NCC section differently, but having said that you did an admirable job finding consensus language and I am happy to defer to your edit. I did make a couple of changes for your consideration. First, I removed the reference to the cities being "commonly referred to as" the NCR, since they are the NCR in fact. Second, I reinserted the reference to the metropolitan area, based on my comments above and consistent with your January 30 edit. I also removed an accent on Quebec and added a comma to the Greenbelt sentences, but those were edits to text that existed prior to this discussion. Skeezix1000 13:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreement from me on your changes. cmh 20:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The wording seems excellent now. The "single metropolitan area" details are avoided and I think it's best because of all the culturally-linked economic issues involved. In many ways Gatineau is part of the Ottawa area at one level, but part of the Montreal hinterland at another level and part of Quebec municipal matters at another. For instance, if you're a serious collector of Franco-Belgian comics and you can't find what you want to buy in the Gatineau shops you don't even think of crossing the river to go to Ottawa, you just drive for two hours East to Montreal to spend your money. Same thing for theatre, indie movies, anything that has to do with spending money related to the French language. --AlainV 04:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Alas for the loss of Planète BD. cmh 05:51, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

National Capital Commission

\\\\Hi, I'm from Ottawa, and have a potentially useful addition for the opening. After the article mentions that Ottawa is a National Capital District (or similar phrase), I believe it would be useful to mention that there is a federal government-run commission that works to ensure that Ottawa has the amenities befitting a capital city...the National Capital Commission. The NCC runs festivals, manages parkland, maintains monuments and national heritage buildings (e.g. the Parliament Buildings, etc).

Nathan

Hi, I believe that since there is a statement that Ottawa does not have a federal district like the US/Australia, it would be helpful to clarify that there are nonetheless several ways that the federal government has tried to give the Ottawa a "capital district-like" aspect. NatMor 02:27, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but does that merit inclusion in the introductory paragraph? There is a discussion of the NCC later in the article. Since Ottawa is but one of a dozen or more municipalities within the NCC's mandate, perhaps this merits a mention in the intro to the National Capital Region article instead? Skeezix1000 03:55, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Streetcars/Trams

Do they have a history in Ottawa?Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)(talk)

Yes. -Joshuapaquin 19:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

2009 world hockey championship

User talk:69.156.166.50 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Ottawa. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Mhking 20:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Images

I noticed that the images in this page are causing some render problems on the page. In particular: - Three images were bunched together at one point. Two of these could be moved almost anywhere as they aren't introduced in-text. - In the Geography section, the two images cause rendering problems in 1600x1200 Windows for IE, Opera, and Mozilla. While my edit fixed a problem with IE, the other two browsers don't seem to like these two images. - As a side note, the image of the Ottawa region in Geography is almost intruding on the Climate section. While not a problem itself, it looks a little ugly.

Any comments? --Sigma 7 05:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Ethnicities

The new section on ethnicities lists the census webpage as its source, but white doesn't appear on that page. I think the information should be changed to list the top-level headings from the census (e.g. British Isles, French, Aboriginal, etc, with some reasonable cutoff, perhaps about the 1% mark (if that doesn't make for too many entries). Thoughts? -- cmh 01:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, we definitely shouldn't be making up our own categories. Jkelly 01:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see it wasn't entirely new, however, my proposal stands... still think we should stick to the census categories. "White" isn't very useful anyway. -- cmh 02:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I was going to be looking into that information today myself, when I moved around that Anon's edits I didn't go look at the source. But feel free to do so. Eric B ( T • C • W ) 10:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

In the event of Quebec sovereignty

In the event that Quebec were to secede from Canada, would Canada move its capital away from Ottawa? If not, the country's capital would be literally on the border with a foreign country. 69.137.220.179 18:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi. We try to restrict the use of Talk pages to discussing improvements to the article. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 18:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

uuuh, the tab is called "dicussion" not "discussing improvements" --74.105.211.251 23:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

South Korea's capital is very close to North Korea. Same for Pakistan and India... and those countries have fought wars against each other. Ottawa being close to Quebec wouldn't matter at all. sikander 19:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

That's a good point. 69.137.220.179 20:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Although Ottawa may reamin the capital of Canada, seperation would have HUGE ramifications to the city of Ottawa. Placing a new international border across a metropolitan area would split families up, seperate employees from their employers, and could "strand" or marginalize the large franco-Ontarian population. Although this would happen all along Quebec's borders, Ottawa is unique in its size, proximity, and integration with Quebec. This is a hypothetical situation at this point, so it does not warrant detailed speculation. I do think it warrants a single sentence implying that Quebec seperation would have unique ramifications for the city of Ottawa. --70.82.50.67 18:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

If Quebec were to break from Canada, it would most likely have NO ramifications what so ever. Families would certainly not be spilt. Quebec isn’t flying away to some distant corner of the globe or floating away, they’ll just be self governed and would receive the Canadian populace and business happily. You would just have to follow what ever rules they’ve set up (limited English, fees, taxes for outsiders, etc). No big deal. -G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.230.126 (talk • contribs) .

This is all speculative. Wikipedia is neither a crystal ball, nor a forum for original thought (Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not). This is not the sort of discussion that belongs in the article. --Skeezix1000 23:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ottawan (band)

I really object to having the disambiguation to Ottawan (band) at the top of this page. There's already an Ottawa (disambiguation), and the band name isn't even the city name. I suggest that the band disambig be removed from here, as it is already in the Ottawa disambig. -Joshuapaquin 12:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

• Agreed. It was ridiculous. There is no need to have more than one disambiguation statement at the top of the article. References to the the disco band can be found at Ottawa (disambiguation). I was bold and removed it. Skeezix1000 12:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox

The infobox recently had the MPs, Senators, and MPPs placed back in the infobox. Does it look better to have all those names inside the infobox or would it look better to have them linked inside the infobox to a separate list? —MJCdetroit 04:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Human Rights Monument

I think an article on this site would be beneficial considering the significance. There have been many political actions held at the site, including the Homeless Action Strike, and the protests held during the G20 in 2001. I would write the article myself but I'm currently working on the Ottawa Panhandlers Union article. A picture for the Human Rights Monument page would be beneficial.--69.196.150.118 05:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

There is already such a page, at Canadian Tribute to Human Rights. It wasn't linked from here, though (neither were the War Memorial, the Peacekeeping Monument, or the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier), so I've added a link. Eron 12:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the info. I always thought it was called the Human Rights Monument.--69.196.150.118 21:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Demographics

An anon user keeps changing the "Both English and French" first language box in the demographics table from 0.9% to 36.5%. This is completely out of line with the 2001 census data that this table references. (And, it means the table tells us what first languages were learned by 135.5% of the population - a demographic oddity if ever I've seen one.) I don't know why this keeps being changed, but the original figure is correct per the 2001 census. Note that this figure is for the language first learned and understood - it is not the percent of people who speak a given language as adults (i.e. the "Both" means people born and raised bilingual from childhood - it is not the number of bilingual adults). If anyone has evidence that it should be different, please raise it here first. Thanks. Eron 02:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

And now, and anon user keeps deleting the First Language - Both English and French statistic. This is referenced data from the census. If anyone believes there is a reason it shouldn't be here, please raise it here first before simply deleting it. Eron 20:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I just placed a warning on the anon's user webpage. In any case, he updated the demographics for Switzerland - the only difference there is that those demographics were correct per the source (even if incomplete). --Sigma 7 22:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Canada's Xth Largest City

We've had an edit changing Ottawa from the fourth-largest to fifth-largest city, behind Calgary. This is correct, and it's incorrect, depending on how one defines "city". Wiki's List of the 100 largest cities in Canada provides three options: largest by CMAs (4th), largest by StatsCan urban area (5th), and largest by incorporated municipalities (4th). I think that this listing needs to be based on verifiable statistical data (currently the 2001 census seems to be the best) rather than on an esitmate, and that it should be consistent across all Canadian city articles. Is there a standard list that has been used in the past? Eron 17:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Use the incorporated municipalities list for cities; use the metropolitan areas list for metropolitan areas. The "urban areas" list doesn't correspond to any statistical boundaries — it simply notes how many people live in an uninterrupted band of urbanization emanating from the downtown core of a city, and can either extend well past or end far short of actual statistical boundaries. Bearcat 06:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The only accurate way to list cities population is by "metropolitan area", it is misleading otherwise. (Miami= 350,000 instead of over 4 million!) Ottawa-Gatineau is over 1.1 million combined, the metro area which should include surrounding towns other than Ottawa and Gatineau is over 1.4 million, far above Calgary's metro area. Therefor Ottawa is the 4th largest city in Canada period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilthyBear (talk • contribs) 17:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

It's the fourth largest metropolitan area. It is also the fourth largest city. What is your confusion exactly? And what is your point in insulting other cities? TastyCakes (talk) 21:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I am quite aware of the population stats. I'm not the one confused, and if you were insulted by that I think you may need to grow a set. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilthyBear (talk • contribs) 22:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't insulted, but you were clearly insulting the city of Calgary and implying some kind of Calgary-boosting conspiracy in the way populations are reported on Wikipedia. You are being somewhat aggressive, and not particularly constructive, in this conversation. If there are no objections to how the populations are now recorded in the article I think it's best we move on. TastyCakes (talk) 22:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, you seem overly agitated. Let's move on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.42.217 (talk) 23:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I think "annoyed" would be a more accurate word, and I think it's at least somewhat justified when your reverted comments are kept in mind. But yes, let's move on. TastyCakes (talk) 00:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Name for a resident of Ottawa

I had a discussion today about what term one would use to refer to a resident of Ottawa. Even my friend, who has lived all her life in Ottawa and environs, didn't know. According to the article for the band Ottawan, the name can also refer to a resident of Ottawa, but as the statement is unsourced I'm not positive. I feel that the article should mention this, like Edmonton does, although perhaps not as prominently. In any case, a Google search for Ottawan turned up mostly hits related to the band. I saw a few references to the city, but this hardly proves that it is the official (or most common) term. --INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 08:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It's deffinately Ottawan. Your friend should really start reading the newspaper/watching the news. -- Earl Andrew - talk 08:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Montreal-Ottawa Corridor

I'm hesitant to make any changes, but I think the Montreal-Ottawa Corridor article may qualify as original research. The article seems to associate it with the Statscan census regions based on their inclusion in the See Also section; however, strictly speaking, the Greater Montreal Area is a census region and does not include Ottawa. A Google search doesn't seem to support its existance either. Either the sites use the term in a strictly geographic sense (often Quebec City-Montreal-Ottawa corridor), or they can be connected back to the article on this site. I personally think that this article should be deleted, but I figured I'd place a comment here to get a sense of what other people felt first. 65.93.32.55 00:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

My apologies, I wasn't signed in. The above comment can be attributed to myself. Jamincan 00:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I've decided to go ahead and nominate the article for deletion based on the comments on the original author's talk page supporting my views. Jamincan 00:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Deleting Images

Recently, I notice that someone has deleted images from this article and replaced them with their own images. I realize that sometimes a user may not like the images being used in an article, but this is not the appropriate way of dealing with the issue. If a user would like to delete another user's image from the article, then send that person a message on their talk page first, and suggest a more appropriate image - do not just delete it without discussing the issue first. In this situation, I don't see how the new pictures that replaced the previous ones are any better (one of them was my own), which goes to show how subjective this can me. It's important to discuss the matter first. I would have appreciated if the older pictures were found a new place within the article instead of just deleted. Trappy 17:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree and have reverted their changes. For the most part the images we had before were quite a bit better than the new ones. Having a diversity of photographers is also an advantage. - SimonP 18:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

There's a lot more room at commons:Ottawa for extra images than there is here. Jkelly 18:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)