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Separate article on Nisqually dialect of Lushootseed needed

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I'm not a linguist, but a regular in the Indigenous peoples' WikiProject; this article is currently an ethno/history article that only mentions the Nisqually language in passing, and the link to it refs to Lushootseed, which it is considered a dialect of. If there's someone capable of at least starting the Nisqually language article please do so; otherwise about in a week I'll just make the stub, as this article should not have the language cats attached to it, which are only for actual language articles...likewise Clallam, Skokomish and other Lushootseed dialects are mostly only on their "tribe" pages, which likewise have the wrong cats (see Category:Indigenous languages of the North American Northwest Coast and note the number of "tribe" articles, vs actual language ones, also wtihin the subcategories.Skookum1 02:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The "legacy" FactFinder link is redirected to the NEW FactFinder and the search parameters do not migrate. I sent this message in "Feedback":

I'm trying to find a link to Census (or other data) on the Nisqually tribe of Washington state to replace the defunct link to the "legacy" FactFinder in the Wikipedia article on that people group. Searching for "Nisqually" here does not yield any information, and the search terms from the old search did not migrate to the new engine. This is unhelpful, certainly not user-friendly behavior. What kinds of criteria do I need to enter to get a hit, or is that sort of data no longer available?

and will see if a useful substitute URL is provided. Meanwhile, I'm removing the broken one. --Haruo (talk) 14:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Move discussion in progress

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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. The evidence of page views and Google searches contradicts the nominator's assertion that the people are the primary topic for this term. The nominator also relies on WP:UNDAB, which is an essay, rather a policy or a guideline. An essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors, and may usefully be cited as a place to read a particular line of reasoning, but should not be cited as if it represents a community consensus.
One editor also invoked Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes). That guideline has been edited significantly in the course of this debate, by some of the participants here, in ways which change the emphasis of the text. It is unclear to what extent any of that guideline represents a community consensus, but the versions before and after these changes explicitly say that "Ethnic groups have several acceptable naming conventions". Is regrettable that one editor chose to misrepresent the guideline as supporting one format over another. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:21, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]



– target is dab page by 67.75.225.201 on Sep 4 2003 about the people and the river. Nisqually (tribe) created by same user on same date, then moved to current title by Uysvdi on Sept 20 2013 in process of disambiguating from Nisqually Indian Tribe. The only plausible PRIMARYTOPIC here might be Fort Nisqually, historically often referred to as "Nisqually" but re WP:UNDAB it's not equatable to the main primary topic because it's in the "whatever FOO" format and is not a match. Skookum1 (talk) 06:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There was a discussion once on whether the ethnicity should have precedence for the name, and it was decided it shouldn't. That could be revisited. But it really should be one discussion on the principle, not thousands of separate discussions at every ethnicity in the world over whether it should be at "X", "Xs", or "X people". — kwami (talk) 12:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Such discussions are not needed; TITLE and DAB and more have already been held as discussions. Each case should be dealt with separately as "one size does not fit all" as one of your colleagues said somewhere in a discussion. PRIMARYTOPIC is very clear, that's another guideline you should read sometime.Skookum1 (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.