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A fact from Newyorkitis appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 April 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that treatment for the symptoms of Newyorkitis was being offered at a New York YMCA in 1908?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:26, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a prominent surgeon wrote a book in 1901 describing a condition he called Newyorkitis, a series of maladies caused by the stress of living in Manhattan? Source: Lapham's Quarterly, February 2020 https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/inflammation-place

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wonder Wheel‎

Created by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 19:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

— Article was created during the last seven days and contains a sufficient prose length. It is well-sourced throughout with proper citations, neutral, and has no apparent copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, short enough, neutral/accurate, and backed by a source. QPQ has been done. This one is good to go. Aria1561 (talk) 02:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We need an expert like EEng to make something better out of this hook. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that John H. Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity caused nervousness in urban dwellers?

E Eng 00:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me---maybe adding the date for clarity. "that in 1901, John H..." etc . Thanks. Coretheapple (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wanted to, but it's already just a few characters short of the 200-byte limit. E Eng 18:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, just for you I've made the effort:

ALT1a ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness (caused by omnipresent buildings) as a symptom of Newyorkitis, and a colleague wrote that female mental activity induced nervousness in urbanites?

(199 chars) E Eng 19:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Outstanding! Coretheapple (talk) 19:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, EEng, but I was hoping for something snappier for the quirky slot. Like:
ALT2: ... that the symptoms of Newyorkitis include "haste, rudeness, arrogance, pursuit of novelty and of grandeur, and pretensions of omniscience"?
ALT3: ... that according to prominent New York surgeon John Girdner, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
ALT4: ... that in 1908, treatment for the symptoms of Newyorkitis was being offered at a New York YMCA?
Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well I certainly won't be offended if any of those is selected over mine. But I always get a kick out of reminding people of outmoded social ideas such as that women thinking causes trouble. E Eng 21:59, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

* Alt 3 describes "Newyorkitis" best, but I would add a reference to 1901. Coretheapple (talk) 15:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since parentheses are frowned on in DYK hooks (see WP:DYKSG#C9), I'm proposing a variant combining ALT1a hook with ALT2 (ALT5) to stay focused on Girdner's book, and an ALT3a to address Coretheapple's issue:

ALT3a: ... that according to John Girdner, a prominent New York surgeon in 1901, Manhattan's omnipresent buildings and noise cause a physical disease called Newyorkitis?
ALT5: ... that in 1901, John Girdner identified nearsightedness, caused by omnipresent buildings, as one symptom of Newyorkitis, with others being "haste, rudeness, arrogance" and "pretensions of omniscience"?

ALT5 is 199 prose characters; one of the trio of "haste, rudeness, arrogance" could be removed to trim the length a bit. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not replace "omnipresent" with "looming" buildings, per source? And "a symptom" instead of "one sympton"? Cuts down on the characters. Adding "Dr."

ALT6: ... that in 1901, Dr. John Girdner identified nearsightedness, caused by looming buildings, as a symptom of Newyorkitis, with others being "haste, rudeness, arrogance" and "pretensions of omniscience"?

Coretheapple (talk) 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT6 has too many commas. It also says everything in one line, making it unnecessary to click on the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Yoninah, how about

ALT 7 * ... that in 1901, a noted surgeon identified Newyorkitis, caused by living in Manhattan, whose symptoms included haste, rudeness, and "pretensions of omniscience"?

'--Coretheapple (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 8 * ... that in 1901, noted surgeon John Girdner identified Newyorkitis, caused by living in Manhattan, whose symptoms included haste, rudeness, and "pretensions of omniscience"? --evrik ^(talk) 05:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed to check the ALT hooks and see whether any are suitable. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I gave this article a full review. I find ALT4 to be the best, as it is short and quirky. Approving for ALT4.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 23:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]