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The intro to this article appears to be written by a biased party, potentially an ex-student of the institution. The article's introduction is poorly written and full of grammatical and person errors. I will undertake some copyediting but have flagged the article. New Leaf Academy does still have a website in operation as of 2020.

There are anecdotal stories located at this tumblr page and around the web that echo sentiments of abuse discussed both in the article body and in this talk page.

Certainly, there is story of some kind here that deserves to be chronicled, but it needs to be chronicled by a journalist or news outlet, not a Wikipedia editor. There is a severe drought of reputable sources that relate to New Leaf and much of the content on the web is anecdotal or is advertising material by the institution itself.

I'm not sure what to do here so I'll just correct some errors as best as I can and tag the article for review. I was shocked by the low quality of this article. 2601:18B:8300:D6C0:80C1:9D4D:3594:3801 (talk) 04:42, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Abusive Wikipedia User Continues His Mission

They suggest the main aspect of treatment is isolation. The opposite is true – students work on improving social skills and developing positive peer relationships.

The statement that they deal with custodial issues is false. New Leaf does not involve itself in custodial disputes. He links to a discussion forum as his reference, which is a discussion forum dedicated to saying only negative things about therapeutic schools. If a parent or student shows up there to say something positive, their entry is deleted or they are patronized as “brainwashed.”

“The facilities are not accredited by the United States Department of Education.”

They are accredited properly through the Northwest Association of Schools and Colleges – see the US Dept of Education Website to see that this is how US Dept of Education accreditation works for private schools.

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ous/international/usnei/us/edlite-accred-recog_associations.html#raa

Then explain this

Accretitation:

If you backtrace from the New Leaf Page Northwest_Association_of_Schools_and_Colleges, you can see that they were split in 2004 in two organisations - the other one is Northwest_Association_of_Accredited_Schools.

From this page I quote:

Neither the United States Department of Education nor the Council for Higher Education Accreditation recognizes the Northwest Association of Accredited Schools as an accrediting agency for institutions of higher education. The Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities is the recognized regional accreditation agency for post-secondary institutions in the seven-state region served by the Northwest Association of Accredited Schools.

The lack of real accreditation is exact why a very well-reputated school - Academy_at_Ivy_Ridge had to pay a fine.

This is not a page, I have created. You can not claim that it is something I have invented. It is the real thing.

Isolation:

If they can not get visits from relatives and friends after schooltime, are they not isolated?

Forum:

It is the forum I was told to refer to, when I some months back was offered a job I turned down. I have children of my own and I was told by our authorities to look to this forum for advise of boarding schools because some of them "could harm the children", as they told me.

A lot of Danes work in the States. Some - very few in fact - of them choose to bring their children along. Of course we have some one from our authorities who have specialized in what to do, when it comes to education.

Covergaard 10:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The US Department of Education does not accredit schools. Therefore, it is meaningless to say that a school is not accredited by them. It would be equally valid (and meaningless) to say that a school is not accredited by the Disney company. Furthermore, neither the United States Department of Education nor the Council for Higher Education Accreditation "recognizes" accreditation agencies for primary and secondary schools; they are only responsible for "recognizing" agencies that accredit tertiary ("higher education") institutions. The Northwest Association of Accredited Schools is the regional accreditation agency for primary and secondary schools in its region (identified as such by all the state education agencies in its region). It does not accredit institutions of higher education, so logically it is not recognized as an accrediting agency for institutions of higher education. Academy_at_Ivy_Ridge had to pay a fine because they were operating in the state of New York (which has strong state regulations) without a license from the state. Arguably, Ivy Ridge is not a "well-reputed" institution -- after they belatedly applied for a state license, their application was rejected.--orlady 04:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No source ??

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Erik_Erikson#Critique_of_Erikson

The source is wikipedia itself and I have not written anything about this person.

Covergaard 11:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(a) Wikipedia is not a source for itself, (b) there's no criticism there. – Steel 11:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have been called a troubled contributor because I am from Denmark. No problem in that. It would be fair to call me a controversial person based on that.

When the article about Erikson leave a full chapter about critique about his lifework, it would be fair to refer to him as either controversial or critized.

Covergaard 12:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

additional sources for information

Covergaard 18:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Content added to the article by an anonymous IP contributor; moved here by Orlady because it appears to be a suggestion for improving the article:

It should be noted that the New Leaf Academy in Oregan is run by a former CEDU employee, Marci Padgett. In 2005, for financial reasons, the CEDU schools were shut down and subsequent statements and a documentary by a former student have brought allegations of abusive behaviour to the forefront. Many of the therapuetic methods used by these types of schools are questionable at best, and abusive at the worst. Students in these types of schools are often expected to reveal intimate details about their pasts as a method to "deal" with their issues. It would benefit any parents that are considering this type of "treatment program" to research the CEDU schools and to review the documentary "Surviving CEDU", by Liam Scheff, before making a final decision. It can be viewed at the following website: http://liamscheff.com/daily/cedu-documentary/

--Orlady (talk) 19:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]