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There are several inaccurate facts in the article regarding the Mercedes Benz W126 cars.

1.The designation W126 refers to the body/chassis style and not to a specific model.

3. The W126 was produced through the 1991 model year and was replaced with the W140 in 1992, NOT 1994 as the article states.

4. The W126 is NOT limited to a "petrol only" or "v8 only" car. In fact the W126 was available in several engine configurations including 6 cylinder diesel models, and 6 cylinder gasoline (petrol) models.

5. Sealtbelt pre-tensioners for the front occupants were standard equipment from 1985 on only. Earlier model-years featured this safety device only with a drivers-side airbag being mounted, however this was an option priced 2600 DM by the time it was 1st introduced in a serial car in 1981 (world premiere). 1st generation airbags manufactured by Bayernwerk AG were made of valuable material, showing a high quality finish which somewhat rewarded the owner for his considerable investment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.23.78.55 (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2. There were many more models produced using the W126 body than the article mentions. There were three primary variarions: a 4-door sedan designated by model numbers xxxSE (where xxx refers to the displacement in cubic centemeters), the long 4-door sedan (5 inches more leg room for back seat) designated xxxSEL, and the 2-door coupe designated by xxxSEC. A non-exhaustive list includes these models within the W126 designation:

300SE 300SEL 300SDL 350SDL 380SE 380SEL 380SEC 420SEL 560SEL 560SEC

5. Heated seats were only standard on the top of the line models, i.e.: 1986-1991 560SEL. All other models offered them as an option.

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Airbag in fact became available on the w126 in 1981, not in 85, as stated in the article. From 1986, the passenger airbag became available. It was an optional extra, but it cost so much that very few of the first generation w126-cars have airbags fitted. Referring to this source; http://www.s-klasse-club.de/gb/kaufberatung.html.

Some more inaccurate information

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  • The w126 used 722.3 transmission and did not containt any kind of limp-home mode "in case of electronics failure" as the article states. The 722.3 was not electrically controlled - the limp-home mode was introduced in the 722.6 which was used in the facelifted w140.

can you please discuss the Diesel engine ?

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Can you please discuss the Diesel engine ?

This article is good - but i need info on the diesel engine particularly the change over from the OM617 to the OM603. Also, isn't there a known problem with the 603 engine type ?

Thanks - publicprocess

Who designed the car? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans Edvard Sunde (talk • contribs) 10:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I remember it was attributed to Bruno Sacco, though you'd probably need a more reliable source than my memory to put that in the entry. And of course any design like that would have been, to a greater or lesser extent, the result of a team effort from the design department Regards Charles01 (talk) 10:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

300SDL outside of North America?

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I've heard that the 300SDL was not sold outside of North America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.58.24.223 (talk) 13:30, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Diesel-engines were just sold in North America and Canada. -- M 93 (talk) 12:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

380SEC

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An Australian 1985-plated RHD vehicle (and, yes, it has "aftermarket" tyres.)

It seems that there is an "accepted" version of these vehicles, and any derivative is unacceptable. It seems that User:Peter.shaman and User:OSX know their 380SECs (and what is not 'kosher', especially the pics.) Oh, well, I tried.- Peter Ellis - Talk 14:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's just that as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia has a practice of showing cars in their stock form unless the article is about the customization of the car. The purpose of the photos is to show what the car looks like, and if the car has been personalized by its owner, some of that is lost. And when a suitable alternative photo exists, there's no reason not to use that other one. IFCAR (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So:
however, the 380 needs to be 'pure'!
I can't say I understand your point. Those cars are pictured with manufacturer-stock wheels; that Mercedes is not. IFCAR (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The reason we choose these "pure" or stock vehicles is because the number of modifications possible is infinite and they detract from the original design (not that there is anything wrong with people modifying their cars). It is more encyclopaedic to illustrate the article with a model that is the same as when driven off the production line. I guess one could draw an analogy with an article on a particular architectural style. In this case, showing an image of a renovated (think "modernised" as opposed to "restored") example of such architecture would also detract from the original/intended style. OSX (talk • contributions) 03:47, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Amount of 1985 - 1991 500SE, 500SEL and 500SEC's produced

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Hi, I have used wikipedia many times for checking facts about Mercedes Benz, especially the old models. Its very frustrating the the amount of 1985 - 1991 500SE, 500SEL and 500SEC's produced is not listed under the W126 catagory. All the other W126 models show how many were produced for each, why are there no values for the amount of W126 1985 - 1991 500SE (W126.036), 500SEL (W126.037), 500SEC (W126.044) models produced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.227.249.75 (talk) 09:59, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1992 Production

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Mass production of the W126 ended in 1991, but it was actually MB Guard models that ended in April 1992, when the armoured W140 became available. This explains the mystery date of April 1992. Should that no longer be included within the article and just changed to the last date of non-Guard models? That would be in August 1991.--Carmaker1 (talk) 07:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Loophole

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The word "loophole" is pejorative. These grey market consumers were doing two good things, signaling actual market demand, and fighting against ridiculous Malaise era authoritarian government diktats, while doing zero bad things, since the cars still complied with EPA and DOT requirements, even the silly ones, like DOT headlight regulations. The use of a pejorative word to describe such auto enthusiasts is not appropriate. PLawrence99cx (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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