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Oldest in Australia?

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I wrote that Melbourne had the oldest law school because of this quote on the University website:

"Melbourne Law School is Australia’s oldest Law School with law first taught at the University of Melbourne in 1857." [1]

However this quote appears on USyd's page:

"Inaugurated in 1855, Sydney Law School is Australia's first." [2]

Is there some subtle distinction between 'first' and 'oldest' that I am not aware of? For now I think I will make the language a little more neutral: 'one of the oldest'. --Shazdor 23:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I need help - Melbourne Law or Monash Law?

The facts: .I am in Yr 12 this year and studying one Arts unit with Monash. Completing an extra year at Melbourne does not bother me (even though i would have to study Arts then Law. Whilst you can't get straight into Law at Melb, I won't be able to get the score to get straight into Arts/Law at Monash anyway --> ENTER for Arts is about the same at both (not an issue). Monash is colser and eaisier to get to. I like the thought of getting a JD, and am very interested in Arts, meaning theat Melb Arts is more appealing as it allows me to study more units, not including Breadth (I think). Monash has a better scholarship program, and even though I am unlikely to get one, with alot of hard work, I MAY be able to achieve the 95.00

Which has the better reputation, espicially for Law, but also for Arts?

Would somebody please help me - I am so confused! Thanks

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.4.119 (talk) 13:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV

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The neutrality of a page is not disputed just because you put an NPOV tag on it. Some discussion/justification is needed. On this basis I will remove the tag until some actual dispute exists. Shazdor 12:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 03:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Currently ineligible for DYK, but may be renominated if promoted to GA.

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  • ... that there was no organised legal education in Australia until the start of lectures at Melbourne Law School in 1857? Source: Waugh, John (2007). First principles : the Melbourne Law School, 1857-2007 p 5-8
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Created by MaxnaCarta (talk). Self-nominated at 06:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @MaxnaCarta: Thank you for what I presume is your first DYK submission. You've done admirable expansion, but I haven't seen evidence that it meets the 5x expansion threshold needed for DYK. Also, less seriously but still blocking approval, are a couple of paragraphs lacking citations altogether. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @John M Wolfson: mate, thanks so much for the review! It is indeed my first DYK submission. I increased the text by over 50%, I thought that would count, and I do think the significant media content should get it over the line? This article was more or less just a rehashing of the university website before I got going, with little context and such. If I ensure each paragraph is cited, will this help? Or should I abandon this DYK nom for now and consider it rejected. Thanks for being so kind, it is my first and I was not sure if it would get through or not. I am surprised by the threshold and complexity of the requirements! MaxnaCarta (talk) 00:03, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry, man, the prose has to be expanded fivefold for it to count, and if that's not feasible I'll have to reject this nom (the citations would help the article, but not this nom without the expansion). Don't get discouraged, though, you've done a great job and certainly belong on Wikipedia. Best of luck in your future DYKs!
      • @John M Wolfson: oh it is no worries, if I get it rejected, I will just keep working on this until it's ready for a GA nom and then once approved, I can resubmit the DYK nom. If it cannot be approved this time, it's fine. How close am I to the threshold? Is it a matter of bytes to increase? I feel like it is at least 2-3 times improved. What is the actual metric to measure whether it is improved five-fold? Thanks. MaxnaCarta (talk) 00:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxnaCarta: Yes, GA-to-DYK is certainly a viable pipeline, one which I've used many a time myself. As for the 5x increase, the readable prose size (i.e., excluding charts, tables, infoboxes, etc.) was at 7.6 kB before you improved it, meaning it would have to be increased to 38kB in the next couple of days. However, it's only at 17k bytes, so I don't think it's feasible at this point unless you want to go on a mad rave. Best of luck in your GAC! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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