Talk:Maximilian Janisch

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Conflict of Interest[edit]

The article in its current form is a translation of this page in the German Wikipedia. The translation has been performed by me so that the article in its current form has been written almost entirely by myself, the subject of the article. This represents a conflict of interest (WP:COISELF). Conflict of interest editing is discouraged but not forbidden.

I assert that the article adheres to WP:POL, notably WP:NPOV and WP:Reliability, but am happy to participate in discussions challenging this assertion, as explicated further below.

Within the page curation process, @Aszx5000: has tagged this page with the COI tag. Per Help:Maintenance_template_removal#When_not_to_remove, I am creating an entry on the talk page to discuss appropriate steps that need to be taken in order to address the problem underlined by this tag.

I propose the following steps in order to address the issue found by Aszx5000 in the article:

I publicly declare my conflict of interest on my User page and on this talk page (this has already been done, [2] and [3]).
I start this paragraph in the talk page and will be happy to participate in any discussions that draw attention to violations of WP:NPOV or other Wikipedia guidelines in the article.
I remove the maintenance tag once the discussion in this paragraph becomes dormant, which I will consider to be the case seven days after the last contribution to this paragraph.

Thank you all and have a great day, --Maximilian Janisch (talk) 07:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that which is helpful. Given that there might not be a lot of traffic here, I have created a notice on the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard under Maximilian Janisch, which I think is the best forum for this. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I have answered over there too. --Maximilian Janisch (talk) 10:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edits have been kindly performed by @Spiralwidget: and summarised at [4] I would prefer to discuss them here instead of the deletion discussion, so I copy over my response from there

Hello @Spiralwidget: First off, thank you very much for your extensive work aiming at having the article be written from a WP:NPOV. Here is what I think of each of the edits:

Removal of Scientist infobox: Agree (it was not added by me).
Removal of Master's Thesis title: Agree.
Removal of Bibliography: Disagree with. The book Instability and nonuniqueness for the 2D Euler equations in vorticity form, after M. Vishik has been published in a very renowned venue (Annals of Mathematics Studies) and furthermore in the two years since its publishing as a preprint it has been quite influential in the field of mathematical fluid dynamics (see e.g. Google Scholar). We could also discuss the relevance of my autobiography. I feel that mentioning a book written by the subject of a Wikipedia article is routine and would be justified in this case.
Change of opening paragraph: Agree.
Removal of mentions of advocacy: Unfortunate but ok.
Removal of his mother: Strongly disagree. Her dissertation exists as a book, cf. Katalog für die Bibliotheken der Universität Heidelberg, you can order it here [5]. It was an influential work in its research area with over 400 citations listed on Google Scholar. Furthermore, mentioning both parents in the article about a "child prodigy" seems reasonable to me.
Removal of his CV and website as sources: Agree.
Removal of German citizenship: Disagree, I am a German citizen. How would you suggest I prove my German citizenship?
Removal of demasiado coverage of the documentaries: Fine.
Removal of personality traits section: I very much agree with this (I took those over from the German article but they were not added by me).
Removal of weblinks: Fine, although I believe it is not unusual to have links to Webpages in Wikipedia articles.

--Maximilian Janisch (talk) 13:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiralwidget: Thank you for your response over at the deletion discussion page. I am replying here to not further influence that discussion. If you want we can wait with content-wise discussions until the deletion discussion has finished.

The concept of leading author for this book does not apply, authors are listed alphabetically in the preprint and the book cover.
Sources linking Monika Janisch to me exist, e.g. [6], [7], [8], [9].
I doubt that public references about my German citizenship exist, if you have any suggestion of there being a good way of proving it for Wikipedia, I'd be very open.

All the best, --Maximilian Janisch (talk) 14:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I would certainly advise against commenting on the deletion page again. In terms of content, I have no qualms with point 1 and 2, though I would suggest letting the deletion discussion continue until consensus before making the edits. In terms of the German citizenship, I think the most pertinent course of action would be simply not including it in the article. No article is perfect.Spiralwidget (talk) 14:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]