Talk:Masaccio

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Name

I think this article needs to be renamed. No art history text gives his name as "Tommaso Masaccio", which is a bit like calling someone Thomas Big-Tom, or, dare I say it, Richard Fat-Dick. "Masaccio" is a sort of nickname derived from an abbreviation of Tommaso ("Maso") with an insertion implying big, clumsy, hulking etc. It's generally assumed to have been used to distinguish him from his co-worker, also called Tommaso, but usually known as Masolino, meaning "little" or "delicate" Tom. So the Two Tom Chums were "Clunking Tom" and "Clinking Tom", as it were. Though the name is recorded by Vasari, there's no reason to believe he invented it. As for the notion that it means "sloppy", afaik that's one of the alternative connotations of the term implying large/clunking etc. Paul B 14:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So do you feel that the article should be changed to Tommaso Cassai, or just left at Masaccio, as it is now? Danberbro

I renamed it, as it now is, according to naming convention policy. Paul B 20:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First great Renaissance Painter?

What about Giotto? mais ^(talk) 15:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It depends whether you consider him to be Medieval or Renaissance. Paul B 15:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that most called him the first Renaissance painter. But of course, it's all really semantic, as you say. Maybe we should change the sentence in the lead of this article to: is considered one of the first great painters of the Italian Renaissance. mais ^(talk) 20:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first great paqinter of the Quattrocento perhaps. Paul B 21:06, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

I've found a fairly good self-portrait of Masaccio at this site. Does it qualify as public domain? Or is copyright its author? mais ^(talk) 15:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since he's been dead for slightly over 100 years you can upload it with the {{PD-art}} licence. Paul B 15:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Masaccio's death

Regarding Masaccio's death, the article states that according to legend he was poisoned by a rival painter. Many scholars believe he may have died in Rome due to the outbreak of plague at the time. Should this not be added as a possibility as well as the possibility he died from poisoning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.238.46 (talk) 21:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.159.147.15 (talk) 05:40, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Overall Critique

The writing of this article is fairly academic and does a good job referencing some of Masaccio's influencers and pupils. The writing did not appear to be biased and remained constantly neutral throughout. I agree with what was stated above; I believe the name should be changed considering that was his nickname, and it is particularly not flattering. A image of the artist (like the self portrait as stated above) should be added to give the reader a perspective of the artist and not just his works. The main critique I have of this article is the lack of citations used. Some sections have maybe one or two, or no citations. These include "First Works," "Maturity," "Brancacci Chapel," "Works of the Chapel," and "Legacy." I found it particularly concerning that the 'legend' of his death, that he was poisoned by a rival painter, has no citation and could be false, as someone mentioned above. In all, there are 16 references, but only one source. I think the research for this page needs to be built out more to support the information written. --Johnmcmichael (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Relatives?

Is it possible that this artist was related to the 1600s John B Musacchia? He certainly seems to take after him quite a bit with the last supper coin.. Dulce Qannabbos (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]