Talk:Marcel Vogel

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The researcher Kal K. Korff claimed in one of his controverse books about Billy Meier that Thallium was being another word for Thulium and after analysing from an so called Dr. Olgilvie that no thalium could be found in the sample and it was being just normal. Thulium is however different to the strong toxic Thalium element, and therefore Dr.Vogel's analysis was right.

It is clearly written and entirely unsourced. If someone would like to look into this and perhaps find references, it would be nice to put it back.65.183.135.231 (talk) 06:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Corrected work location: I knew Marcel Vogel as a co-worker at the IBM Los Gatos Laboratory (which was located at 6450 Guadalupe Mines Rd. in San Jose, confusingly) and was part of the Advanced Systems Development Division, not the Research Division as reported. The Research Division's Almaden Laboratory did not open until 1985. Leporid (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I cannot find any patents by Vogel in various searches, can anyone find one patent, let alone 'numerous'? Would more than one be 'numerous'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.229.71.127 (talk) 06:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the patents are listed under IBM instead of M.J. Vogel; — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.23.177 (talk) 01:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

False statement about test of metal sample

The part about the Billy Meier metal sample is factually wrong and requires replacement. The currently referenced book has simply copied and pasted the earlier false statements by Mr. Korff. This while Mr. Vogel had in reality discovered the much, much rarer and more expensive Thulium. This can be checked when listening to this interview he gave to a Japanese film crew in 1985, where he is even spelling the name of the substance letter by letter to leave no room for confusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZmBW69OO1I&t=1735s And there had never been a second assessment undertaken by another specialist, as falsely claimed in the two flawed book sources. Such a specialist, Mr. Olgilvie had been approached but latter did not perform any tests and report back any results. These details are here nicely summarized: https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Analysis_of_Korff%27s_Spaceships_of_the_Pleiades_(small_version),_Internet,_January_2003#Korff's_confusion_between_thallium_and_thulium 2A02:8388:8C07:3400:C19A:2C23:F229:FEE9 (talk) 09:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither is a WP:FRIND source (and note WP:RSPYT) that could be used to contradict text cited to the Indiana University Press book by Callahan and Prothero. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the evidence by Callahan and Prothero? There is zero of it. Quite a terrible basis for slandering somebody. 2A02:8388:8C07:3400:F8DC:622E:4F63:A5A2 (talk) 17:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]