Talk:Lucena

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That discussion has now moved to Talk:Lucena, Córdoba, as a result of the successful move request. -GTBacchus^(talk) 21:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 September 2020

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Moved as proposed. Consensus is narrow, but the proposed primary topic clearly receives substantially more attention than all other topics combined. BD2412 T 20:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lucena → Lucena (disambiguation)
Lucena, Philippines → Lucena

– According to Google search, the city in Quezon is clearly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and also to comply with WP:MOSPHIL. The other city after similar name have few pageviews than a Philippine city in Quezon. 36.69.63.48 (talk) 22:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral not as overwhelming as you'd expect. Think this would probably generate mislinks if we moved it. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This would create unnecessary ambiguity when the city in Córdoba is one of the largest and most historically important cities in Andalucía and lent its name to both the cities in the Philippines and Brazil. And there are another three towns with this name in Spain. It is absurd to assume that the Philippine topic has more long-term significance than the others or that, without context, it would be more likely than all other topics combined, including a football team and several historical figures. Both Google and Google Books show plenty of results for the Spanish city, whose Britannica article is longer than that of the Philippine city. In fact, most Google Books results are for historical figures, including the famous chess player, as well as the Andalusian city, and very few are about the Philippine city; so, your argument in favor of an ambiguous title is essentially baseless beyond a relatively small excess in "pageviews". Moreover, your proposal would lead to incorrect links to [[Lucena]] being missed and having to be manually corrected when found. Neodop (talk) 17:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The recent revision of WP:MOSPHIL is about the use of <cityname> only article title format for certain Philippine towns, but not at cities. A new discussion could be made regarding the naming format for other cities, so that only three types of titles will prevail: Dumaguete + Zamboanga City + Roxas, Capiz, eliminating the disambiguation "x, Philippines." But there hasn't been discussion about this. And this discussion is not in my "Wiki-bucket list" for a while, considering the sudden and unexpected deletion requests against hundreds of Philippine building and sculpture photos due to no FoP. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:38, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The link provided by In ictu oculi supports primary topic. Nothing absurd here. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:25, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Neodop: no fundamental grounds for seeing a medium-sized city as having more long-term significance than all the other topics combined (which include a number of other settlements and a historically important Spanish town). – Uanfala (talk) 13:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There is no criterion for "more long-term significance than all the other topics combined", whatever that may mean. -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. By pageviews [1] the place in the Philippines is by far the most popular topic that readers are looking for. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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