Talk:Louis Rossmann

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Links and stuff

Please fix the references up a bit (like adding Retrieved date, on my edit it was September 1) as I don't know how to do that. Also, criticism of MacBook is not a "campaign", so go figure what to do with that. Emperoringo (talk) 08:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are his own youtube videos?

I wasn't aware of youtube videos being reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.36.67.212 (talk) 20:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That makes no sense. Surely Louis Rossmann is the most reliable source for talking about himself! Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure the "notable videos" are actually notable

Shouldn't it focus on his most viewed video, like "The horrible truth about Apple's repeated engineering failures" and "Genius Bar caught ripping customer off ON CAMERA", etc? I am a longtime viewer of his channel and did not know about the videos mentioned. BalaM314 (π) (talk) 16:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Originally the section was titled "Videos". In September 2021 I changed the section title from "Videos" to "Notable videos" because I wanted someone who was unfamiliar with Rossmann to understand that the section was not an exhaustive list of his videos. My interpretation is that the "Campaigns" section is for Rossmann's activist work and the Notable videos section is for other important information/content related to his YouTube channel. However, there is some content that I consider to be activist work in the notable video section and a few videos that I don't consider to be activist work in the campaigns section. I have spent some time thinking about this article's formatting and I haven't been able to come up with any way to improve it. If you've got a better section title or any other changes in mind feel free to implement them. MasonJar55 (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research Notice

There are multiple instances of OR in this article, most notable is his recent move from NY to TX. While certainly an interesting fact, it's inclusion should not be solely based on his own personal announcement or YT videos. (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tca6xsBEuGw) referenced in the lead. Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:16, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is ridiculous. Wikipedia does allow primary sources, such as diaries. It's one thing if some opinion of his was cited as fact, but apparently you've got a problem with the fact that he moved states is being reported by himself. How so? If I write a blog about my experience watching his videos and mention he moved, is that a better source to you? 89.64.42.9 (talk) 23:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edit was (incorrectly?) reverted

My edit was reverted, apparently because of WP:UNDUE: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1188999710. Forgive me if I misunderstand, but since there is no published alternative viewpoint, WP:UNDUE does not apply:

 Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in those sources.

To me, this implies that if there is only one viewpoint published by a reliable source, then it is:

Okay to publish that viewpoint; and
Incorrect to publish any other viewpoint

If the argument was that my sources don't meet the criteria defined in WP:BLPSELFPUB for a reliable self-published source, then we could debate that, since they are borderline. But my edit does not, I believe, violate WP:UNDUE. Pandapip1 (talk) 18:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I might argue that it could be considered WP:OR and not necessarily undue (but to your point, WP:BLPSELFPUB would also apply). I would love it if a RS could cover Rossman's adventures in New York, but unless someone actually does, it probably shouldn't be included on his BLP, unfortunately. Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How is some random Youtuber notable?

What's he done other than being a loudmouth about "right to repaair" Wikipedia:Notability applies here, and I fail to see how "random Youtuber" = notable. Also WP:SOAPBOX This is is not a soapbox for grandstanding about "right to repair." If there are noteworthy issues about right to repair then put them on Apple's page 27.96.192.138 (talk) 05:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than attempting to manually remove well sourced information from an article as you did, start an AfD to gain consensus if you believe this BLP doesn't meet GNG. - Skipple ☎ 05:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just as an FYI - There was already an AFD discussion where the question of notability was discussed. - Skipple ☎ 21:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least the references to Youtube need to be removed unless the comments come from a reliable source [[1]]. YouTube itself is not a reliable source of information for anything and the proof is clickbait channels such as Rebuild Rescue That does not even talk about why Sam is dead. Louis uses his attitude for the same clockbaity bullshit. He doesn't give a Fµck about right to repair, he's a clickbait loudmouth.

1) Per my example the NTSB is a reliable source...

2) by comparison Loudmouth Rossman is not a reliable source or even a noteworthy human being.

I use the example above to show you exactly where clickbaity bullwhack may get you.... Someone died as a result... Loudmouth Rossman is in it for the same game CLICkS...

Is this what has become of Wikipedia? tolerating clickbaity bullwhack over reliable sources?

The NTSB is a reliable source, Loudmouth Rossman is not... As to the issue of right to repair, it's a significant issue to contend with that either needs to be covered directly under Apple's wiki page, or in an article in and of itself... Not just some random bullwhack from a clickbaity loudmouth who lives in Texas.

Either fix the sources or delete them, one of the two. Per my example if I really wanted to I could find the accident mishap which led to a fatality directly on the NTSB website, that IS a credible source on a noteworthy event, from the NTSB as the peak body for that investigation... by comparison loudmouth Rossman is just a clickbaity idiot who uses his channel as a "running stream of consciousness" that has about as much veracity as anything Donald Trump has to say at this point.

in simple terms a 12 year old can understand.... Following (perhaps well meaning) but misguided information may well nominate you for self deletion, and a Darwin Award. I DON'T see the noteworthiness in someone who makes about as much noise as my fart.

Perhaps the latest video sums it all up don't plug your dildo into the wrong port. --27.96.194.2 (talk) 07:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would encourage you to tone it down, as your comments on this talk page do not adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines for respectful and constructive communication. Specifically, it violates the following key policies:

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Censorship of content

Should the censorship of the app name "Grayjay" be included? Annon-of-good-will (talk) 12:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard of it. If you have a reliable source and it is relevant, go ahead and add it. 〜 Adflatuss • talk 22:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Piracy

WP:NOTFORUM
Rossman has been making videos where he argues for “ the moral, right” to pirate Contant, but then all the sudden will say “ don’t watch the content because it’s not worth it” which comes across more of a political reason than moral reason. I wonder if Rossman has ties to conservative or Randian idealogy groups. B ThatNerdyGuy (talk) 07:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]