Talk:List of Oval Office desks
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Roosevelt Desk
[edit]There are problems here. The Taft Oval Office suffered a major fire on December 24, 1929, and had to be rebuilt by Herbert Hoover. Did the Theodore Roosevelt Desk survive the fire?
Also, the two photos at right show different desks. Which is the Theodore Roosevelt Desk?
-- BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the Theodore Roosevelt desk survived the 1929 fire. According to William Seale (The President's House 1986), Hoover's sons moved the desk before the fire reached the Oval Office. A group of Grand Rapids, Michigan furniture-makers donated a new desk, which Hoover used for the rest of his term, and FDR used as his Oval Office desk. -- BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Trump
[edit]As editing has begun with a new president i just thought i would attempt to build concensus here. While trump has done a quick redecoration of the office, it seems the new rug and curtians are merely the ones george w bush used. I dont think we can say without a doubt that trump will keep the resolute desk, even though he is currently using it less than 24 hours into his presidency. My suggestion is to leave trump listed as using the resolute for now, but if he chooses a new desk at some point, we will switch him over to that desk in the list without a caveat that he used the resolute for x number of days. Found5dollar (talk) 03:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
DiaperDon Desk
[edit]Shouldn't we get the #DiaperDon desk into this page somehow? It seems historically significant since he signed H.J. Resolution 37, 44, 57 and 58 while sitting at it per https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/27/politics/donald-trump-tiny-desk/index.html
Or maybe, if it wasn't used in the Oval Office, it needs it's own article and http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Category:Furnishings_of_the_White_House can link to it? I'd like to know more about this desk and how Trump came to use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.190.64.125 (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- 107.190.64.125, Unfortunately that table is neither a desk, nor is it in the Oval Office. Therefore it does not belong on this page.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't we list Theodore Roosevelt on the table...
[edit]...using the desk named after him? He used it from 1903 to 1909. Problem is that the table lists 'term of office', and TR started using the desk a couple of years into his unexpected term. Solution? Randy Kryn 16:02, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- I guess the problem is the Oval Office wasn't created until after Roosevelt's term, so TR's use of his desk wouldn't fit the page name. I pity the poor fool (referring, sadly, to myself). Randy Kryn 16:07, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
FDR
[edit]So did FDR use the Resolute desk at all? The Resolute desk article states he was the one who had the door added to the front, but this article says he used the Hoover desk...74.137.104.182 (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- quote from this article "The desk resided in the White House in various rooms, and had a hinged front panel added to it by Franklin D. Roosevelt, until Jacqueline Kennedy found it languishing in the "White House broadcast room."[8]" In other words, he used the desk, just not in the oval office.--Found5dollar (talk) 08:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
C&O desk, where is it now?
[edit]A chart on the page has a '?' about the current location of the C&O desk. Anyone up for a desk hunt? Its page says there is replica at the GHWBush library, but that is the only mention of a current rendition and apparently it's not the original desk. Any ideas or research? Randy Kryn 14:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- I have literally been working on figuring that out for years. I even tried reaching out to the White House Office of the Curator but never heard back from them (it is possible I had the wrong email). Please feel free to try to find this info. Perhaps a second try at reaching out to the Curator or maybe the George Bush Presidential Library knows where it is.--Found5dollar (talk) 17:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Theodore Roosevelt tenure
[edit]By my count, the TR desk was used 1909-1929, that's 20 years, and 1945-1961, that's 16 years, or 36 total. The Resolute desk was used 1961-1963, that's almost three years, 1977-1989 12 years, and 1993-2021, almost 28 years, or 42 total, taking one off for the partial years. I'm going to change the lead, do we really need a source for this? I think it falls under WP:CALC. Also check my math please. GA-RT-22 (talk) 02:07, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- GA-RT-22, you are right! I think I may have meant "most administrations" when I wrote that but since that has also changed. thank you for updating.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- I think it was correct when you wrote it, but the years have caught up with us. GA-RT-22 (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Is there a calculation template for routine arithmetic? It would be pretty handy to be able to include code like these examples:
{{calculate 1929-1909 + 1961-1945}}
{{calculate years("1963-11-22"-"1961-01-20") + 1989-1977 + years(now-"1993-01-20") | round=0}} - I know that there are Help:Extension:ParserFunctions that do a lot of that sort of thing, but are they permissible in an article or only within a template?
- It's probably a moot point here, since the tables (in the formatting sense of "table") don't have columns for number of years in use. But it's still good to know for cases when WP:CALC applies, since it helps show the calculation, at least to editors. — Steve98052 (talk) 11:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Is there a calculation template for routine arithmetic? It would be pretty handy to be able to include code like these examples:
- I think it was correct when you wrote it, but the years have caught up with us. GA-RT-22 (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Earlier presidential desks
[edit]This list article covers only the six Oval Office presidential desks. But there were presidential desks before the Oval Office existed. I would assume that there is a list of those desks too, though I haven't been able to find it. This article should have a "see also" list that includes the "List of presidential desks before the Oval Office", whatever that post's actual article title may be. Steve98052 (talk) 05:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Steve98052, there does not seem to be a page listing other desks used by presidents in their executive offices before the creation of the Oval Office, but it is a great idea! It most likely makes sense as an additional table on this page. I'm currently working on overhauling the pages for each of the 6 desks right now (starting with the Wilson desk and Johnson desk based off new documents I'm finding in the national archives. I will come back to this page to update it with the new info I've found eventually and will look at adding new sections at that point.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm glad my idea is useful. Unless there turns out to be a lot of presidential desks from before the Oval Office, and enough documentation about them to build a substantial article for earlier desks, including them on this page in their own section makes more sense.
- In that case, it would be appropriate to rename this page to a more inclusive title, with the appropriate redirect of course.
- — Steve98052 (talk) 01:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Wrong desk
[edit]Hey everyone that watches this page. I've been fixing up the pages on the Wilson and Johnson desks and stumbled on something. I just found picture of people actively redecorating for Nixon's Oval Office on January 20, 1969. The only issue is the desk in the image. It is clearly not the Johnson desk or the Wilson desk. It could possibly be the Theodore Roosevelt desk due to the carved detail in middle of the center drawer. Do you think they brought the desk over from the Vice President's Ceremonial Office in the Eisenhower building instead of the Vice President's office in the Capitol and had to switch it out later? What do you think is going on? --Found5dollar (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- My guess, and I have absolutely nothing to back this up, is that LBJ took his desk with him when he left. He was obviously quite attached to it, having used it for so many years, and it ended up in his museum, suggesting he may have made arrangements for it before he left office.
- Then along came inauguration day, they needed a desk for the Oval Office, but Nixon hadn't made any arrangements, having been busy with the transition. So they just grabbed any old desk. The one in the Eisenhower building would have been a lot closer and more convenient than the one in the Capitol. So maybe a mistake, maybe just expediency.
- By the way, there is a replica Resolute Desk in the Nixon Museum, even though he never used it. GA-RT-22 (talk) 18:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Biden administration
[edit]Can we just leave out Biden for a day or two? We don't have a source that says he is using this desk. He also can't possibly have used it yet. Wikipedia is not the newspaper, and Biden could still pull a Jimmy Carter. GA-RT-22 (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
In this live stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYL3gkqUVb8) here, we can see him still use the desk to sign executive orders. If the desk was to change, it would have changed it by now. So i'm confident to add it to the article - JamesHawkes0161 (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @JamesHawkes0161: the Oval Office has not been redecorated yet. We need to give them at least a day or two to settle in. Most presidents claim they didn't pick a desk until their first full day in the job. --Found5dollar (talk) 22:26, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- The live stream is not a source. It's WP:OR. Wikipedia:Recentism applies here. I'm sure Biden used the desk today. Carter used the Wilson desk for a day or two before staff could move the Resolute desk in, but we don't say the Wilson desk was used by Carter for three days or whatever. There is no urgent need to update this article right now today. GA-RT-22 (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
And we may have a reference.[12] If there is agreement I think we can start saying Biden is using the resolute until/if he redecorates again.--Found5dollar (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Personally I would wait at least until tomorrow but I withdraw my objection if someone wants to put this in. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Today, the telegraph released this article, outlining the offices changes, the desk has been reported as staying, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/21/spot-difference-joe-biden-has-swept-away-signs-donald-trump/. With this I am happy to add it back to the article and finalise this addition JamesHawkes0161 (talk) 15:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
New section about other presidential desks
[edit]Just trying to build up a consensus and figure out what we want from a section about other desks used by presidents before the Oval Office was built. I found this blog [13] that, while it can't be used as a source in and of itself, nicely lays out other desks used by presidents. The issue I'm running into is what exactly this new section should be. Should it be a chronological list or just a paragraph touching on the other desks? Should it only be for desk used by presidents in their official offices or is it broader and includes their personal desk too? It also gets messy because the further back we go the less official spaces get. Do we include Lincoln's small personal desk that meetings could never have happened at? What about Jefferson's writing box or drafting table? I'm kind of leaning towards writing the section just as "Other Presidential desks" so we can talk about the important furniture pieces with out worrying if they were in the presidents official office or not. Maybe only includes ones that they used while president and in US owned or leased buildings? Right now I'm thinking the Treaty Table, Washington's desk, Lincoln's desk, and the "Mahogany Desk" mentioned in the Frank Pagnotta memo. That Mahogany Desk may be better wrapped into a new early section about how the desk is chosen, but I haven't really started thinking about that yet. This is all a bit more confusing that planned.--Found5dollar (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging Steve98052.
- I suppose this risks bleeding over into Presidential furniture in general. I'd like to know more about LBJ's helicopter chair for example. I think it would make sense to start with a "Other Presidential desks" section here, it can always be split out if it gets overgrown. I might include the "tiny desk" that Trump took some shit for, even though it's been used by other Presidents before him. GA-RT-22 (talk) 04:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Replying Found5dollar and GA-RT-22:
- Although I proposed the idea of an "other presidential desks" section, I don't claim to be a scholar of presidential furniture. I will mostly defer the matter to the editors who do the hard work of researching things.
- I think the "tiny desk" belongs in such a section, even if it's more a table than a desk. My understanding, from more detailed stories about the "tiny desk" incident, is that it has long been used in bill-signing ceremonies, but that it had never before drawn attention. The explanation is that it is used in signing ceremonies because it's tiny, which allows more people to crowd into a photograph while a bill is signed into law. For example, the table in the photo illustrating the Signing ceremony article looks a whole lot like the table in this "tiny desk" article. I suppose I could offer this stub text for use in such a section:
- == Signing table ==
- Although technically a desk, the signing table has long been used in presidential signing ceremonies. Its first known use for that purpose was on [date], when President [name] signed the [act name].<ref>...</ref> It has also been used for signing ceremonies by Presidents [name],<ref>...</ref>, George H. W. Bush[1] Bill Clinton,[2] George W. Bush,[3] Barack Obama,[4] Donald Trump,[5] and Joe Biden.[6][7]
- The signing table gained notoriety when President Trump used it for his 2020 Thanksgiving address.[8]
- ^ Donius, Susan K (2012-07-26). "From the Archives: A Landmark Moment for Americans with Disabilities". White House archives. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ Glass, Andrew (2018-09-13). "Clinton signs assault weapons ban, Sept. 13, 1994". Politico. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ Valenti, Jessica (2012-02-23). "The Nation: Men, All Men. And Birth Control". NPR. National Public Radio. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ Censky, Annalyn (2010-07-21). "Obama on new law: 'No more taxpayer bailouts'". CNN. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ Gordon, March (2018-05-24). "Trump signs bill easing post-2008 crisis restraints on banks". Yahoo! finance. AP. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ "Biden signs 'existential' executive orders on climate and environment". FBC News. Fijian Broadcasting Corporation. 2021-01-28. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ McGrath, Matt (2021-01-28). "Biden signs 'existential' executive orders on climate and environment". BBC News. BBC. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- ^ Welsh, Caitlin (2020-11-26). "Trump finally emerged to speak at a hilariously tiny desk, and the internet had jokes". MSN.com. Mashable. Retrieved 1 March 2021.
- I'm jumping to the conclusion that "signing table" is the customary name for the table. I dug up documentation of uses of the signing table as far back as Elder Bush and ran out of time.
- And having researched the signing table this much, I suppose it's more than a stub at this point. But since there's not yet a consensus on where to put it, I'm just putting the draft here for now.
- — Steve98052 (talk) 11:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Pre-Oval Office presidential desks
[edit]I've been working on discovering the desks used by presidents in their executive office or private quarters while Presidents. here is the messy info I have found so far. Lots of gaps and lots of doubles. I was compiling this in my personal sandbox but I figure laying it out here may welcome others to add to it. Feel free to edit this, add to it, or comment after it if you have suggestions or see any issues. I may start adding this info into the main article in a less messy way soon.--Found5dollar (talk) 01:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- I've spent a fair amount of time at the Hayes house and museum in Fremont. They have a couple dozen desks. I believe only one of them was used by him at the White House. But it wasn't his main desk, it was a standing desk he used in the library. Desk, Slant-Top – Register Desk GA-RT-22 (talk) 04:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Added below. Parsing out which desk to include and which to leave out is a bit tough. I've been going by desks used by presidents in the official residence or executive office. This Hayes one seems to fit that bill.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nice work. The photograph of Washington's writing desk is so good it would be nice to see it go to article space. I'm adjusting the sorting properties, including the addition of an ordinal column. — Steve98052 (talk) 10:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Before the Oval Office was created in 1909, several notable desks were used by presidents in their executive office or private quarters. The following table lists these furniture pieces.
info about the various spaces used as executive office[14]
Presidential tenant(s) | Desk | Workspace dimensions | Notes | Current Location | Picture | in article? | |
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George Washington | 1 | Washington's writing desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | Used by Washington in Federal Hall. "Federal Hall was demolished in 1812, and according to a historian at City Hall at the event, the desk somehow ended up at the almshouse in Bellevue, which “horrified” City Council who promptly moved to the Governor’s Room in 1844"[15] | Governor's Room, New York City Hall, New York |
Y | |
Washington’s presidential desk | 62 by 35 inches (157 by 89 cm)[1] | Used by Washington in his office in President's House, the executive mansion at the time.[2] | Philadelphia History Museum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania[3][4] |
Y | |||
John Adams | 2 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "John Adams kept a small office adjacent to his bedroom"[5]
"exploring the american presidency through 50 historic treasures" by Kimberly A. Kenney pgs.5-8 Says that the John Adams Law Desk was used by him as "a lawyer, vice president ad president". The book does not say where he used the desk as president. It is now at the Adams National Historic Park in Quincy Massachusetts. This book says this desk was not used in the White House. "John Adams used this desk in Quincy when he was Vice President and President of the United States." |
room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | not used in White House |
Thomas Jefferson | 3 | Declaration of Independence Desk | 9.75 by 14.74 inches (24.8 by 37.4 cm) | Writing box/ portable desk Jefferson used to pen the Declaration of Independence on. He use used it up to and through his time in the White House.[16] [17][18] made by Benjamin Randolph p. 102
"n Thomas Jefferson moved into the Executive Mansion in 1801, he established his office in what is now the State Dining Room. Jefferson kept his office private, only allowing select visitors."[5] |
American Democracy exhibition, National Museum of American History, Washington, D.C.[19] |
Y | |
James Madison | 4 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | x | |
James Monroe | 5 | Monroe Doctrine Desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "since all the furniture in the White House had been burnt when the British set fire to the White House, Monroe brought his own personal furnishings.[6] "Monroe Doctrine Desk (Secretary Desk) (ca. 1795). This desk is part of a larger set of furniture purchased by the Monroes while in Paris during Monroe’s time as Ambassador to France. The entire set of furniture was brought back to the United States with the family, and accompanied them to the President’s House in 1817. Family legend states that this is the desk at which Monroe was sitting when he penned the now famous Monroe Doctrine. The desk also contains a secret compartment, in which a cache of long-forgotten letters was found in the 20th century. The letters were written between Monroe and other notables like Thomas Jefferson and James Madison."[7] [8] replica in the White House. Full write up on the desk:[20] | James Monroe Museum and Memorial Library, Fredericksburg, Virginia |
XXXXXXX | Y |
John Quincy Adams | 6 | desk in the room east of the upstairs oval room | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | John Quincy Adams had an inventory made of the White House after he became president. This inventory notes a desk in the room east of the upstairs oval room which is assumed to be where his office was.[9] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Y |
Andrew Jackson | 7 | Andrew Jackson's stand-up desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "A tall awkward desk" [10] used by Jackson was still in the White House when Andrew Johnson undertook a rearrangement of the presidential office rooms. The desk was taken out of the building and was sent to be auctioned off, but Johnson had it returned saying "What ever was Old Hickory's I revere". It was still in the office during President Hayes' term. It was auctioned off in 1882 with other white house furnishings, under Chester A. Authur's watch, to make way for new design elements in the building. [11] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Y |
Martin Van Buren | 8 | Van Buren desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "exploring the american presidency through 50 historic treasures" by Kimberly A. Kenney pgs.27-30 describes a desk he used as president, but does not say where he used the desk as president. It is now at the Martin Van Buren National Historic Site. | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | still researching |
William Henry Harrison | 9 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | x | |
John Tyler | 10 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | x | |
James K. Polk | 11 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | x | |
Zachary Taylor | 12 | Flat-topped table | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "...he used a flat-topped table for a desk"[12] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | No, not enough info/notability |
Millard Fillmore | 13 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | x | |
Franklin Pierce | 14 | Andrew Jackson's stand-up desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "Pierce worked at Andrew Jackson's stand-up desk, with it's pigeon holes for papers"[13] | XXXXXXX | Jackson desk | |
James Buchanan | 15 | Buchanan’s Teakwood Desk | 66 by 34 inches (168 by 86 cm) | "Constructed and presented to President James Buchanan by the government of India when he was elected President. It was used as his presidential desk during his term in office in the White House. The desk was passed down through the descendants of Buchanan's nephew, James Buchanan Henry."[21] other information:
This says it was shipped by his friends in India, not the government (but could have been friends in the government).[22] This is mostly about the donation of it to Wheatland[23] |
Parlor Room, Wheatland, Lancaster, Pennsylvania |
we might be able to pull the imageof the desk from here as it was made by someone working for the Library of Congress.[24]
It is absolute stunning. Possibly even more beautiful than the Resolute. |
Y |
Plain stand-up desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | Plain stand-up desk with pigeon holes [14] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Jackson desk note | ||
Abraham Lincoln | 16 | Table | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "At the south end of the room, between the two windows, stood another table, at which Lincoln sat in a large armchair and used as his desk."[15] | room, building, City |
Y | |
Upright desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "In the southwest corner stood another upright mahogany desk so battered that Stoddard quipped it might have been salvaged “from some old furniture auction.”"
"Pigeonholes in that desk served as Lincoln’s filing cabinet." "one mystery—the desk (upper right) in front of the doorway. This door, often spoken of, gave access to a corridor the president ordered cut through the adjacent room to allow him to pass unseen to the family quarters. Although graphic documentation all agrees on this location, one wonders how Lincoln accessed his corridor with the desk so placed."[15] |
room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Jackson desk note | ||
Heirloom desk? | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | I found this stray article from the Springfield Star on July 4, 1964 about the White House trying to get a desk that Lincoln used from the Hayes homestead[16] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | No, not enough info | ||
Andrew Johnson | 17 | High desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "He liked to work standing up at a high desk in his office, a position that helped relieve the almost constant pain of kidney stones."</ref>[25] p. 149.</ref> this is very likely "Andrew Jackson's stand-up desk" as he saved it from being auctioned off and kept it in the presidential office but i don't have a precise reference saying so.[17] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Jackson desk note |
Ulysses S. Grant | 18 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | aparently grant had a woonton desk that is in the White House collection. not sure if ti was used in his office or not [26] p. 10 | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Y |
Rutherford B. Hayes | 19 | Slant top desk | 26 by 27.3 inches (66 by 69 cm) | Hayes used this desk in the library by a window. [27] | Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center, Spiegel Grove, Fremont, Ohio |
XXXXXXX | No, not in his office |
Andrew Jackson's stand-up desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | "A tall awkward desk" [18] used by Jackson was still in the White House when Andrew Johnson undertook a rearrangement of the presidential office rooms. The desk was taken out of the building and was sent to be auctioned off, but Johnson had it returned saying "What ever was Old Hickory's I revere". It was still in the office during President Hayes' term. It was auctioned off in 1882 with other white house furnishings, under Chester A. Authur's watch, to make way for new design elements in the building. [19] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Jackson desk note | ||
After being gifted the Resolute desk, Hayes had it placed on display in the Green Room, then had it moved to his private office.[20] | |||||||
James A. Garfield | 20 | James Garfield Wooten Desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | desk used in his D.C. office but I'm not sure if it ever made it to the Whitehouse. it was moved witht he rest fo his furniture to a meemorial library in his ohio house after he was assisinated[28][29]
this claims it was in the whitehouse aparently it wasnt ordered untill after Garfields death. "The correspondence made it clear that Mrs. Garfield had the desk made in 1882."[30][31] |
Memorial Library, James A. Garfield National Historic Site, Mentor, Ohio |
No, not in the White House based upon new findings | |
Chester A. Arthur | 21 | Chester A. Arthur desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | Chester A. Arthur desk [32] seems like it may have been the same style as the Garfield Wooten desk as it was made by a company listed her ad wooten desk makers [33] Benjamin Harrison and Grant may have also had this style of desk per that article.
Also this article says it was built in richmond and was on display at Haynes, Spencer and Company before it was sent to the white house[34] here is an ad showing Arthur was using the deskin the whote house [35] |
room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | Y |
Grover Cleveland | 22 | Used the Resolute desk in his office [36] picture of him using it [37] | |||||
Benjamin Harrison | 23 | Benjamin Harrison's desk | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | this image from the white house historic association says it is the resolute desk, but it clearly is not.[38] this has happened a few times with image descriptions there. this might be the same desk:[39] | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | still researching |
Grover Cleveland | 24 | Used the Resolute desk in his office [40] picture of him using it [41] | |||||
William McKinley | 25 | Treaty table or Grant Cabinet table [what Monkman calls it in her book] | 96.5 by 48 inches (245 by 122 cm) [Monkman's book] | McKinley used as desk. Has a blotter, pen and ink stand, clock, calendar, and a row of buzzers for calling staff set on one end of it. [Seale, William. The President's House. White House Historical Association and the National Geographic Society. Washington, D.C. 1986. ISBN 0-912308-28-1. p. 631][42][43] used by recent presidents in the treaty room as a private office desk (Betty Monkman's book says Clinton chose it as his desk in his Treaty Room Office.. bush and Obama particularly but I am sure I could Dig up more) | Treaty Room, White House, Washington, D.C. |
still researching | |
Theodore Roosevelt | 26 | desk name | 1 by 1 inch (2.5 by 2.5 cm) | room, building, City |
XXXXXXX | still researching |
References
- ^ [1]
- ^ [2]
- ^ [3]
- ^ [4] p. 27.
- ^ a b [5]
- ^ [6] p. 43.
- ^ [7]
- ^ [https://archive.org/details/presidentshouseh01seal/page/152/mode/2up?q=desk The president's house : a history> p. 152
- ^ [https://archive.org/details/presidentshouseh01seal/page/182/mode/2up?q=desk&view=theater The president's house : a history> p. 183
- ^ The first President Johnson; the three lives of the seventeenth President of the United States of America p. 530
- ^ The president's house : a history pp. 426, 493, 538.
- ^ [8]. p. 105
- ^ [9]
- ^ The president's house : a history p. 339
- ^ a b [10]
- ^ [11]
- ^ The president's house : a history pp. 426, 493, 538.
- ^ The first President Johnson; the three lives of the seventeenth President of the United States of America p. 530
- ^ The president's house : a history pp. 426, 493, 538.
- ^ The president's house : a history. p. 493,494.
Layout
[edit]I know you're still working on this, but the problem I have right now is that the timeline graphic in the Chronology section gets cut off by the photos. Maybe add a "clear" or put the photos in a gallery. GA-RT-22 (talk) 01:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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