Talk:List of NBA players with most championships

Why is LaBron James listed as having won 4 Championship rings when his record indicates he has only 3? Definitely not in a league of being the GOAT. He’s definitely a want a be without earning the label! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.128.184.188 (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Length of list

What was the criteria for how long this list should be? Top 20? 5 championships won? Thanks --ChaChaFut (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

It was intended to list all players with five or more NBA championship rings. Five seemed like a reasonable cutoff at the time, and still does IMO. So, even if the number of players with six or more championship rings reaches 20 or more, I think we'll continue to display the set of players with five. — Myasuda (talk) 00:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Right now its 25 players who won more than 5 championships. If the criteria is lowered to 4, there will be 10 additional players in the list. I think it would be nice to include those with 4 championships, since some of them (Salley and Saul) are mentioned in the lead prose. — MT (talk) 14:35, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind extending the list to players who won four championships, but I don't care at all for the integration of the trivia into the lede. Quite frankly, I don't think that this sort of trivia belongs in this article at all, but I tolerated it as long as it was relegated to a separate section. Please reconsider this recent change. — Myasuda (talk) 14:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

According to MOS:TRIVIA, a trivia section is discouraged. Anyway, I've removed most of the trivia info that are irrelevant to the article. The only trivia info left are the players who won the championships with three different teams and the players who won consecutive championships with two different teams. IMO, these rare feats are related to the most championships win. The sentences are also referenced. — MT (talk) 15:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Just because they have something to do with championships doesn't mean they belong here. — Myasuda (talk) 15:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Well these two are the most relevant ones, compared to the other ridiculous trivia info that I've removed (records outside Celtics dynasty and winning in three different decades). I still think that these two are not only related to the championships, but they are related to players who won a lot of championships, which is what this article about. These rare feats made those four players (Salley, Horry, Kerr, Saul) unique from the other players on the list. Anyway, feel free to remove them if you like. — MT (talk) 15:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

It is trivia, but you have pruned it down to what I can accept as a tolerable state. My primary concern is that its presence will be a nucleation point for the insertion of trivia of the sort you've just removed. By retaining these sorts of loosely related championship factoids, it creates a fuzzy and subjective boundary as to what is acceptable and what isn't in this article. But, I'm willing to leave it where it stands and wait and see how things play out. — Myasuda (talk) 03:48, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I guess I understand your concern, it does open a door for other editors to add more irrelevant trivial info like before. I've trim down the details more so that the emphasize goes to the second paragraph about players who won more championships. Anyway, I don't mind if the third paragraph is removed altogether since those info can be found in the players article. — MT (talk) 12:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Seasons Played

This is a bit misleading because the first season for each player is listed as the calendar year in which their first season began. However, if a player won a championship in his rookie season, then that would be listed as a year later. So I propose that the year listed for each debut season be the latter calendar year of the NBA season.Hoops gza (talk) 13:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

My counter-proposal would be to be to remove the From and Until columns, which were not added until October of this year. They don't add much to this article (career tenure is better measured by the Seasons Played column), and in the case of a player such as Bob Cousy (who, several years after retiring, played a few games as a player coach) they can be confusing to the uninformed reader. — Myasuda (talk) 15:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that proposal.Hoops gza (talk) 16:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Missinformation

Missinformation: Bill Russell only won 9 championships as a player the last 2 were when he was a coach so please move Sam Jones to the number one spot with his 10 championships over Russell's 9. Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.2.133.184 (talk) 04:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

You're incorrect. Bill Russell was a player-coach for his last three seasons: 1966-67, 1967-68, and 1968-69. — Myasuda (talk) 13:50, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Whichever is correct, his name is garbled and reads as: [[Isiaha 1 {{{last}}}|Isiaha 1 {{{last}}}]]* and should be fixed by someone who knows how.

Bill Russel no longer holds the record. Phil Jackson has 2 as a player and 11 as a coach for a total of 13 2604:2D80:A189:200:A0EE:AEFA:8504:A1FC (talk) 05:00, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

This list is for championships won as a player.—Myasuda (talk) 13:08, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Foreign born players

I don't care much for the trivia section, but if it's retained then it needs a better explanation of what foreign-born is. Does this mean non-US born or, since the NBA has had several Canadian teams, does it mean non-US and non-Canadian born? If the former, then Rick Fox, for example, belongs on the list. — Myasuda (talk) 01:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Right, this explanation should be added, and it would be worth creating a table, with fields such as Player, Country, N of Titles, Year of those titles. --Jordiferrer (talk) 22:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Rings

So Havilcek did not get a ring for every championship, so probably this should be renamed to List of National Basketball Association players with most championships, right? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, after reading [1], I agree with this proposal (but in light of the recent page move, perhaps List of NBA players with most championships is preferable?). — Myasuda (talk) 13:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'd prefer that. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:56, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry!

I am so sorry I was trying to edit the chart but i did something wrong could someone please fix it? 72.74.175.36 (talk) 21:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Was Russell the first black coach in North American professional sports?

Hello. This is my first time trying this, so please forgive me if I screw something up. It's more of a question that may lead to a change being required. Near the top of the article(1st paragraph I think) it is stated in reference to Russell that "he was the first black coach in North American professional sports". Weren't there black coaches in other professional negro league sports like baseball for instance? They began in the 1870s and they had black coaches as far as I know. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elric132 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Addition

Maybe it would be good to add the fact that in the history of the NBA, only four players have won titles with three different teams:

Robert Horry - Houston Rockets 1994, 1995 / Los Angeles Lakers 2000, 2001, 2002 / San Antonio Spurs 2005, 2007

John Salley - Detroit Pistons 1989, 1990 / Chicago Bulls 1996 / Los Angeles Lakers 2000

LeBron James - Miami Heat 2012, 2013 / Cleveland Cavaliers 2016 / Los Angeles Lakers 2020

Danny Green - San Antonio Spurs 2014 / Toronto Raptors 2019 / Los Angeles Lakers 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoWikiNoLife (talk • contribs) 10:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

OMG Someone needs to add Magic Johnson

This article is badly incomplete without magic Johnson who won five NBA championships 100.11.47.107 (talk) 12:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

The list as incomplete because it does not include Steve Kerr 47.184.14.209 (talk) 22:11, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Both Johnson and Kerr are already listed.—Myasuda (talk) 23:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Lead

The lead is quite long, is not well-written, simply restates some of the content of the list, and includes details that fall outside the scope of the article. For example, it includes the early history of the NBA, the fact that championship winners sometimes receive championship watches instead of rings, and the question of whether the number of championships is a true measure of a player's greatness.

None of this needs to be in the article. The article is supposed to be a list. I have a WP:BOLD proposal to change the lead so that it simply says: "The following is a list of National Basketball Association (NBA) players who won the most championships as players. Boston Celtics center Bill Russell holds the record for the most NBA championships won with 11 titles during his 13-year playing career". Thoughts? MonMothma (talk) 10:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)