Talk:Kuttab
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The contents of the Maktab (education) page were merged into Kuttab on 23 June 2021. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Sure that Maktab is the most common word?
[edit]I think is the word kuttab is more common. can people vote which word is used in there country/region?
- Libya -> kuttab. Hakeem.gadi (talk) 12:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The article says, "In medieval times, the Caliphate experienced a growth in literacy, having the highest literacy rate of the Middle Ages, comparable to classical Athens' literacy in antiquity.[7] " But reference 7 is making a completely different claim. It does not state that the medieval Caliphate had a literacy rate comparable to that of classical Athens', it states that the medieval Caliphate had a higher literacy rate than any other culture of its time, just as classical Athens had a higher literacy rate than any other culture of its time... It is saying that both had the highest literacy rates of their own time, not that they had the same literacy rate: "The abil- ity to read and write was far more widely enjoyed in the early medieval Islamic empire and in fourth-century-B.C.E. Athens than in any other cultures of their times."
I don't know what the literacy rate was in either classical Athens or the medieval Caliphate. I am sure that both were the most highly literate societies of their own ages, but I don't think there is any support for the statement that their literacy rates were comparable. All the reference is claiming is that the literacy rate of each was high compared to other cultures of its own time.
I'd suggest that the statement in the article be truncated to "In medieval times, the Caliphate experienced a growth in literacy, having the highest literacy rate of the Middle Ages.[7] " and omit all reference to Athens altogether.
DlronW (talk) 00:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was: Maktab (education) blanked and redirected to Kuttab. R Prazeres (talk) 04:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Proposal: merge Maktab (education) into Kuttab
As per WP:OVERLAP and WP:NOTDIC. These two pages are clearly the same topic, and this is the older, more established, and more broadly-defined page. That the same word has slightly different meanings in different langages another doesn't mean that separate pages are needed for each variation in each language (WP:NOTDIC); instead, the differences are already discussed in the "Name" section here, and further differences can be discussed here as needed. Splitting pages about essentially the same topic can mislead or confuse both editors and readers.
(Note: This page was previously called maktab too, precisely because of both terms appearing for the same topic in various sources; it was moved to kuttab on the argument that the latter corresponds to the word used for this meaning in Modern Standard Arabic usage and avoids confusion with the word for "office" in Arabic today.) R Prazeres (talk) 00:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Addendum: After a second look I also realize that most of the content of Maktab (education) was taken directly from this page so the overlap is also literal. R Prazeres (talk) 02:23, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
It's been over a week and no objections, so I'll be blanking and redirecting Maktab (education) to here. There's no sourced material there that isn't already here. R Prazeres (talk) 17:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @AafiOnMobile:, could you clarify what you mean by "please close correctly"? I'm following the procedures as per WP:MERGECLOSE. If it's a question of wishing to oppose the merge, please make this clear. R Prazeres (talk) 03:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- R Prazeres, You did not add the closing templates correctly. So it was bad close. Please add the templates rightly. You had just used
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and nothing else. You should've noticed that what was added/removed in the edit. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 04:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)- Quite right you are, I wasn't seeing that I forgot to add the result at the top. Thanks for the response. R Prazeres (talk) 04:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- R Prazeres, You did not add the closing templates correctly. So it was bad close. Please add the templates rightly. You had just used