Talk:King Island emu
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Skin in Paris and skeleton in Florence
[edit]On what grounds are these assigned to D. ater? It appears that no proper records were made during collection. As a result, all the images we have in the two dwarf emu articles could be interchangeable. Also, it appears both types were called D. ater once, even from Kangaroo Island.[1] FunkMonk (talk) 20:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Epithet change
[edit]Dromaius novaehollandiae ater becomes Dromaius novaehollandiae minor http://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/subspecies/ --Melly42 (talk) 09:28, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Would like to see a detailed explanation for that conclusion. FunkMonk (talk) 11:18, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- This emendation is based on The Howard and Moore Complete Checklist of the Birds of the World, Volume 1: Non-passerines, 4th edition (Dickinson & Remsen, 2013) --Melly42 (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, know if they write anything about it? I'm pretty sure the fact that the name has been used so frequently afterwards along with descriptions would make it valid. By the way, this is probably the wrong talk page to discuss this,would be more visible on the article talk. FunkMonk (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Would be interesting to read Viellot's original description. BTW Dromaius ater was also used for the Kangaroo Island Emu which is now Dromaius baudinianus http://books.google.de/books?id=xpUBocGB12YC&pg=PA21&dq=Dromaius+novaehollandiae+ater+Vieillot&hl=de&sa=X&ei=F7HaUtK7HKuh7AbY44H4CQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dromaius%20novaehollandiae%20ater%20Vieillot&f=false --Melly42 (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I think the Paris specimen was mentioned in his description, and that turned out to be the King Island bird, which is why the name has been associated with that (explained in the article). FunkMonk (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Would be interesting to read Viellot's original description. BTW Dromaius ater was also used for the Kangaroo Island Emu which is now Dromaius baudinianus http://books.google.de/books?id=xpUBocGB12YC&pg=PA21&dq=Dromaius+novaehollandiae+ater+Vieillot&hl=de&sa=X&ei=F7HaUtK7HKuh7AbY44H4CQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dromaius%20novaehollandiae%20ater%20Vieillot&f=false --Melly42 (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, know if they write anything about it? I'm pretty sure the fact that the name has been used so frequently afterwards along with descriptions would make it valid. By the way, this is probably the wrong talk page to discuss this,would be more visible on the article talk. FunkMonk (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- This emendation is based on The Howard and Moore Complete Checklist of the Birds of the World, Volume 1: Non-passerines, 4th edition (Dickinson & Remsen, 2013) --Melly42 (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- If someone has the source and can explain the rationale, it would be nice. It is a bit premature to change the article before we even know why. FunkMonk (talk) 11:21, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- I changed this anyway. Though this now means that all "ater" based names are supposedly synonyms of the mainland subspecies. FunkMonk (talk) 02:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 14:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC) This is an excellent article! Just a few issues I noticed:
- Mention the trinomial authority in the lead.
- 14.000 years ago --- 14000 or 14,000 years ago. Same with "3.600 Emus" in Extinction.
- In Description, There was no seasonal variations in plumage 'was' should be 'were'.
- Subfossil remains of the King Island Emu show that the tibia was ca 330 mm. (13 in) long I am not sure what "ca" stands for.
- Could you add something specifically about who were this Emu's predators? Perhaps before the If unable to flee, ... line, you should clearly state who fed upon these birds. But that's if literature is available.
I await your replies. I believe this will be a GA after you fix the above. Sainsf <^>Talk all words 14:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, the issues should be fixed now. The sources don't mention natural predators, and I'm not sure there were any on the small island, so it only refers to hunting dogs introduced by humans. FunkMonk (talk) 16:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fine, you have resolved all the issues. Looks perfect now. I promote it as a GA! Sainsf <^>Talk all words 12:16, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 17:09, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Fine, you have resolved all the issues. Looks perfect now. I promote it as a GA! Sainsf <^>Talk all words 12:16, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, the issues should be fixed now. The sources don't mention natural predators, and I'm not sure there were any on the small island, so it only refers to hunting dogs introduced by humans. FunkMonk (talk) 16:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
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