Talk:Kalinga War

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Kalinga Commander Name

Changed the name of the leader of the Kalinga army from "Kalinga" to "Unknwon." Facts Legend names Raja Anantha Padmanabhan as their leader, but Facts Legend seems like somewhat of a dubious source. Other sites do not list a name at all. It appears that Ashoka didn't bother to record the name of the king he conquered, or their simply wasn't one. In any case, I think it's most respectful, not to mention less misleading, to list the leader as "Unknown" Jenfain (talk) 11:38, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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strength..........

600,000 infantry ???? are you serious ? were they logistically capable to concentrate 600,000 men ? after u dont just gather men for fighting u have to feed them as well ! and sustaining 600,000 standing army is seriously a blind trust on primary sources, that were famous for exaggerations. so is there any one to take notice of it ? or u guys happy with fantacy size of kalinga troops !

keep in mind that before 13th century A.D concentrating troops more then 150,000 was logistically impossible, although any nation could posses a lot more "fighting people" but to concentrate them and organize them as an army was a totally different task. الله أكبرMohammad Adil 08:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be disregarding the fact that Kalinga was fighting in its own territory.Also, it is very likely that these were militia rather than well trained soldiers.Also, check Battle of Changping

BTW, what happened in 13th century A.D?

Vinay84 (talk) 10:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The population of the sub continent during the Mauryan empire phase was 180 million with approx 50-60 million in the empire itself in the second century BCE roughly the same population as the Roman Empire which did have legionary forces approaching 645,000 at one point but they did not field them all in one war see this analysis Military Manpower, Armies and Warfare in South Asia by Kaushik Roy, Routledge, Oct 6, 2015.--Navops47 (talk) 14:46, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

one of the most just ruler (sic) that India etc... The Contributor of this paragraph is so enamored with the subject that it's wholly unacceptable to be left as it stands. This section of the article needs a serious rewrite with attention to report facts rather than the perceptions of a biased writer. If this is to be a credible source for the preservation of knowledge rather than a cesspool ruled by libel and editorializing then articles such as this can not be deemed acceptable for public consumption. I recommend a complete rewrite to be undertaken by someone with more knowledge on the subject than I posses, and who shares my passion for the accurate dissemination of information. User: Anonymous) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.83.206.89 (talk) 21:13, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing a bit, but without a citation I think this should be struck. Ethan Mitchell (talk) 23:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feudal Republic

it says feudal republic but then it says its led by a young king? is more of a doge like character or was it a kingdom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.6.132 (talk) 14:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map

The map nees to be modified to actually label Kalinga. 198.180.159.2 (talk) 17:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference

The Kalinga War was fought between the Maurya Empire with Ashoka and Raja Ananta Padmanabha. This phrase is left without mentioning Source for a long time. There is no historical evidence on the name of the king who fought with Ashoka. I propose this to be removed.--రవిచంద్ర (talk) 10:35, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality disputed

This article is highly skewed towards Kalinga. It contains glorifying and biased statements without any sources. The article need lots of editing. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 16:09, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unsubstantiated Superlative

In the abstract it is said that "The Kalinga War, the only major war Ashoka fought after his accession to the throne, included one of the largest and bloodiest battles in history." There is no source given. I think it a very bold claim, that an ancient battle should have been on par with regards to "bloodiness" with modern battles, i.e. battles from WW2. Please either add a credible source, change the text to somewhat more relative, or delete it. Idna (talk) 09:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Quora as a source

One of the sources given is this Quora question, whose answerers have credentials like "knows something about wars." One of the answers simply quotes this page. This shouldn't be acceptable -- it's kinda lazy fact-checking, really. Should the citation be removed? Or, since we are using the answer given by some dude on quora, should it remain and another source to verify the information be added? Jenfain (talk) 11:38, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jenfain: You're right. It's not what, in Wikipedia parlance, is known as a reliable source and should be replaced. Please also read through this essay on what is generally considered a reliable source particularly for history articles.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 15:32, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Reidgreg (talk) 13:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

When Did King Ashoka Convert to Buddhism

Sudhee26 (talk) 09:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mainly prompted by this line, which I have deleted now "The bloodshed of this war is said to have prompted Ashoka to adopt Buddhism with them." According to the sources provided by the True Indology on Twitter, King Ashoka Converted to Buddhism 4 years before Kalinga war. That calls into question the false narrative of his conversion to Buddhism following Kalinga war and seeing its aftermath. In fact it came to a shock to me since I have grown up thinking Kalinga war led him accept Buddhism. For anyone doubting the sources, please visit True Indology Twitter Thread (https://twitter.com/TIinExile/status/1292135149761490945). I edited the page saying that Ashoka was Buddhist 4 years before the war, quoting Twitter Feed of TI. But the user pSANU instead of asking for a better reference, lets the false narrative stay (without a reference) and deletes the real history. Very convinient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudhee26 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neither twitter, nor a handle labeled "True Indology", qualify as reliable sources on Wikipedia. --RegentsPark (comment) 14:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ashoka would invade Kalinga in 262 BC whereas we know from minor rock edicts that Ashoka had converted to Buddhism more than two years earlier. No Buddhist text links his conversion to the war and even Ashoka’s eulogists like Charles Allen agree that his conversion predated the Kalinga war. Moreover, he seems to have had links with Buddhists for a decade before his conversion. The evidence suggests that his conversion to Buddhism was more to do with the politics of succession than with any regret he felt for sufferings of war." References: ^[1] ^[2] Sudhee26 (talk) 09:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)sudhee26[reply]

References

But I learnt in school, by history text book that he was converted in Buddhism after war of Kalinga, he was sad to see loss of human life and destruction caused by Kalinga war. The books are available in pdf format in Marathi language, Balbharti's website. Success think (talk) 05:42, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

S.S.T

Between and way 2405:204:A08C:4287:0:0:1B0D:10A0 (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://hindupost.in/history/the-truth-about-ashoka/

[2] ttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31020419-the-ocean-of-churn

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