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I'm completely flummoxed as to why the AfD was closed as no consensus based on "no P&G arguments by Keep !voters" (paraphrased). Numerous !voters argued it met GNG as well as HEY, and examples were provided. Are the Indigenous newspaper sources and academic journal obit and book review not being considered as reliable sources? Netherzone (talk) 03:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just further evidence of an engrained bias against Indigenous subjects and topics on Wikipedia? Requiring more "evidence" in sources than is required to gain consensus on other topics. Effectively declaring Native owned sources to be less credible than other sources. Closing an AfD discussion as having no consensus based on no P&G arguments by Keep !voters when there was more than enough examples provided. I have literally seen articles kept with one !vote stating "Meets GNG" and the rest stating "what they said". Agreed with PersusjCP, this is both laughable and frustrating. --ARoseWolf11:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that criterion #2 of WP:ANYBIO, and WP:BASIC were also P&G rationales for Keep in addition to WP:GNG and WP:HEY. Now I am not only flummoxed, but bewildered, perplexed and confused. Did I miss something...did WP's notability guidelines and policies recently change? I know iVotes are not counted, but just want to add in addition to the above that numerically there were 2 Delete iVotes and 6 Keep. Netherzone (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So now we have four, yes four, policy and guideline rationales for a consensus to keep along with a numerical majority to keep but this all adds up to no consensus. Riiiiight, makes complete sense. I don't know why anyone would think there is a built in bias at play here. I mean it's not like there are literally thousands of examples of AfD's resulting in keep for other subjects with less sources than this article. Oh, there is. Well, silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. --ARoseWolf14:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
