Talk:Judge (sumo)

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Shinpan or shimpan?

Isn't the standard transliteration shinpan? --Auximines 19:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Before a "p" the "n" sound is pronounced (and written in roman characters) as an "m" so shimpan is generally regarded as correct. May be worth making a redirect page for though -- I leave it up to you... Nashikawa 20:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not true that the "n" sound is written as "m" before a "p", this is pretty much obsolete, see the Manual of Style. "m" is only preferred in well-known names such as Asahi Shimbun. A google on 'sumo shimpan' returns about the same number of hits as 'sumo shinpan', so I'm not sure which is preferable. What do you think? --Auximines 09:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From the sources I have, shinpan seems more common than shimpan. Pawnkingthree (talk) 08:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a sumo specific term

As far as I know, the term shimpan is not specific to sumo, but can be applied to almost every other gendai budo that has competitions. Think kendo, atarashii naginata, judo, karate, iaido... I think this page should be rewritten to reflect that. --Tinctorius 09:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Further than that, the term really just means umpire or referee, so it is also used in baseball, soccer, basketball, etc. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:49, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]