Talk:Jesus He Knows Me

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Critical of religion...?

I don't think it entirely fits in that category if Iron Maiden's similar song, "Holy Smoke," which is actually dirtier (profane), does not fit in this category, I don't feel this one does either. The lyrics satirically take the viewpoint of one of these televangelists and sarcastically spouts what they quite literally say, but that still doesn't seem to fit it into this "Critical of religion" category. Besides, Collins is a Christian (or so I'm told). Tubularbells1993 (talk) 02:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously doubt Collins is a Christian, although Chester Thompson (who would have drummed on the song when it was played live) is. Nonetheless, the average Christian would not be offended by this song because they also oppose the kind of hypocrisy it satirizes. 65.244.131.146 (talk) 17:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding onto this, I find the sentence "it was originally not going to be played because the band thought the live visuals were mocking religion" confusing. If they weren't planning to play it live, why prepare live visuals? There is also no source for this statement. Jules TH 16 (talk) 20:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ghost (Swedish Rock Band) Song Cover

I would like to add a topic to the article to note the cover of Jesus He Knows me by the Swedish rock band, Ghost. For the body of my suggested addition, please see edit @ 14:23, 20 June 2023‎ 83.218.138.157

My edit has since been reverted by a fellow editor, whose reversion I then reverted. They then kindly pointed out that I was engaging in an edit war (quite mindlessly I'm afraid) and has suggested that I post my suggestion here for discussion.

My view is that Ghost's cover of the song is notable enough to appear on the main article. >13M streams on Spotify and >2.1M views on the official music video on YouTube since it was released last month.

What are other people's thoughts please? 92.12.60.11 (talk) 21:36, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The guideline at WP:SONGCOVER sets a high bar to inclusion. The idea is that the song should be a major hit, or it should be discussed in WP:SECONDARY sources. It's not enough that the cover version exists, or that the artist is famous, or that the album is notable.

You will want to be on the lookout for media commentary about the popularity of the Ghost cover version. Binksternet (talk) 22:31, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice, I shall do so. 92.12.60.11 (talk) 05:54, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]