Talk:Japanese pottery and porcelain

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{{wikify-date|April 2006}} — ßottesiηi ^{Tell me what's up} 03:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

A major problem throughout Wiki is the "pottery" term. Strictly speaking it is a good translation of "toki", but a insufficient one for "tojiki." I think the Chinese would be unhappy with "pottery". The Koreans wanted "ceramics" but were voted down. This is a linquistic and historical problem that begs a solution for Wiki. I propose "Japanese pottery and porcelain" as a solution, though an unhappy one. --Iwanafish 11:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Makes no sense. Pottery is inclusive of porcelain in the English language. Ceramics is still broader, but if people don't want to use that there's no reason not to use pottery.

Also, the Chinese would not "be unhappy" with denigrating Japanese pottery and are completely irrelevant regardless. — LlywelynII 07:28, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

From 11,000BC

I think that this claim was derived from a fraud study by a Japanese archeologist. In fact, Japanese pottery, despite being one of the oldest, is only 5,000 years old. (Wikimachine 16:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC))

According to C14 dating of organic matter accompanied with eartenware shard unearthed, "13500(+-1000) years before present" should be thought the earlist date of earthenware in Japan. See TIME SCALE in INTERNATIONAL JOMON CULTURE CONFERENCE --ReijiYamashina (talk) 23:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

20th Century to present day

What about Marui, Noritake, NGK & Toto? Each one of those makes more than all those in the current section combined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.238.178 (talk) 04:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The article as it stands is exclusively concerned with historically or artistically noteworthy ceramics and has little or nothing on more commercial wares, which are those which the average Western collector is likely to be interested in, like Satsuma ware, Noritake, or Marutomo. It is like an article on British ceramics which covers 18th century porcelain at great length, but mentions nothing from the 20th century other than Bernard Leach and Lucy Rie. Maybe this is in line with Wikipedia policy, but it does limit the practical value of the article.109.146.52.248 (talk) 18:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Article improvement

This article seems stalled. It needs inline cites and some general work. It is listed as a start class with high importance, but little has been done. This could be such a beautiful introduction or gateway article to the art of "Japanese pottery and porcelain." Enfermero (talk) 21:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Feel free to dive right in and help. ···日本穣^? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Lots of inaccuracies here but one in particular stands out, Mukei Bunkazai is an Intangible Cultural Asset which i believe is a designation for Japanese things, places, works of art... Humans are called a Ningen Kokohou (人間国宝) or Living National Treasure.

Images

Just like in the discussion about the article Geisha, the variety and examples of images are so large, we need to discuss which ones are representative and why they should be included in the article. I have kept images that are National Treasures and also included a new table with one sample image per item, although I am aware it might not be the most representative, but we have to work with what we have in Commons or find better ones. Please put forward your suggestions. Gryffindor (talk) 13:00, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I have added a couple of more representative images of what was most important for the west, and I suspect Japan also. I wonder if some of these regional wares with one-line stubs and no images really deserve a full entry in the list. It might be better to summarize them below, and expand the important ones. The text is very largely EB 1911 isn't it? Johnbod (talk) 15:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Merge

There is a merge proposal (with Japanese wheel throwing) which relates to the this page; please continue the discussion where it started at Talk:Japanese wheel throwing. Klbrain (talk) 06:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 22:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

WP:ERA

Per this edit, the usage of this page was established as BC/AD. Kindly maintain it consistently, pending a new consensus to the contrary. — LlywelynII 07:28, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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