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BetacommandBot 03:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a single

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One track each side. Normal length. 45 rpm. It's a single, not an EP.--Michig (talk) 06:41, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Square One (Black Pink single) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 00:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 November 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to James II (record). SSTflyer 08:56, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]



James II (single)James II (EP) – A separate RM was suggested following the close of the last RM above. In short, WP:SONGDAB specifically recommends avoiding the term "(single)" in disambiguation, as it's ambiguous and potentially confusing. Such is the case here, where there's not actually a song named "James II". As such, other sources call this an "EP". Sources call it an EP: "Two years later, their second EP, James 2, was released..."; "The 'James II' e.p. eventually came out in 1985"... Per our guidelines, we should follow suit. Cúchullain t/c 18:16, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. It's not an EP. It's a 7-inch record with one 3 minute track on each side running at 45rpm with no extended capacity or content, i.e, a standard single. "(single)" isn't the slightest bit ambiguous or confusing to disambiguate a single. By contrast, when "(song)" is used to disambiguate the title of an article about a single, that is confusing. --Michig (talk) 21:16, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support a rename of some sort. The word "single" is just wrong here: "Single" implies a song of that name released on a 7" vinyl or equivalent format. This is not a single called James II. Personally, I would not call it an EP, since that implies a longer record, but since reliable sources describe it as such, that would be OK. How about James II (record)? --MrStoofer (talk) 13:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Singles are so called because there was a single song on each side of a record. "Single" has never meant one song. --Michig (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"(record)", "(recording)", or some such would be fine with me. The problem with "single" is that to most readers, especially in post-vinyl era, "single" implies a recording tied to a particular song of that name, the "A-side" of historical single records, and there's no song called "James II". This is one reason that titles including "(single)" are specifically deprecated by WP:SONGDAB. The album is short for what's often considered an "EP", but these sources do use that to describe this subject.--Cúchullain t/c 18:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a problem largely of Wikipedia's making due to ill thought out guidelines. Effectively banning articles about singles from using (single) disambiguation is ludicrous. This is in no way an 'album'. --Michig (talk) 07:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.