Talk:Inheritance tax

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Copy of "Why is this page US-Centric" discussion from the former Inheritance tax page: which led to its move from here

There is a UK-specific page. Shouldn't the US tax law regarding the Estate Tax (really a duty) be on its own page also? This page should just have general information about inheritance and estate taxes/duties. Jaysbro 23:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Either this page ought to contain general information only, with jurisdiction-specific information on other pages, or this page ought to contain information on all jurisdictions people care to discuss. (I'd prefer the former). To have an article on "Inheritance Tax" go in depth on US Law in particular seems an anomoly. Crebbin 20:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think everyone agrees with that, it's just that few people know much about cross jurisdiction information, and/or no one has made the fix yet. It might as well be you. Probably it's best to move out the US specific stuff and only leave what could be general to all. - Taxman ^Talk 21:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree (as noted above) that this article should be separate from an Estate Tax article and should not be so "country-specific" unless it is meant to have separate sections for the applicable countries. Stevenmitchell 14:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problem with a centralised page is that someone with genuine cross-border knowledge would have to write it from scratch. I think I've got a solution, though: why not move this page to Estate tax (United States) (or USA estate tax, or whatever) then turn Inheritance tax into a dab? What do you think?

Here's my first thoughts on how that page might look:

"Estate tax" and "death duty" redirect here.

Inheritance tax or estate tax is the name given to various taxes which arise on the death of an individual.

In some jurisdictions, such taxes are known as "inheritance tax":

In some jurisdictions the term used is "estate tax":

Estate tax (United States) (and see also its section on Federal estate taxes).

In some jurisdictions the term used is "death duty":

Bet there's no pages for this section, but prepared to be proved wrong otherwise the layout will be similar to stamp duty, below.

In some jurisdictions, death generates a charge to "Stamp duty", including Bermuda, Others?.

In some jurisdictions, death gives rise to a charge to Capital gains tax:

Finally some jurisdictions have never had inheritance taxes, or have abolished them, including Australia.

This page is a modified disambiguation page.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by AndyJones (talk • contribs) .

For what it's worth, I like the disambig idea. I'll help out if you want any help. - Jersyko·talk 16:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also like the move and disambig. Then people can expand it as information is researched/known, etc. I think the disambig would have to be copied and exist at both Estate tax and Inheritance tax. I don't really see a way around that. Redirecting to a disambig is not a good idea. - Taxman ^Talk 18:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jeez, I didn't want people to like the idea, now I have to do the work! Two things, though, before I do:

Somebody, ideally an American, please tell me what you think the best name is for the USA Estate Tax article.
Taxman, can you give me a the REASON for your view that a redirect to a dab is bad? If there are sound reasons then I'll run with them, but it's obviously easier to maintain one article, and for future editors to change it, so that's what I'd rather do. AndyJones 18:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The US estate tax article should be titled Estate tax (United States). This is the SOP for law articles, as seen here, for example. - Jersyko·talk 18:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. How about I suggest a fix (e.g making this something more akin to the main page of Age of Consent, which describes the basic concept and then links to pages that subdivide it into regions, e.g. "Europe", "South America", etc. ) over at WikiProject Law? :) Runa27 20:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back from a wiki-break, and I intend to start on my suggestion above, today or tomorrow. Any further misgivings or comments? Can anyone address Taxman's point above? (If no, I guess I'll just do what I think is right & someone can clean up behind me, but that's probably not ideal.) AndyJones 13:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, have started on that. Two things TO DO on the new page now:

Going through "what links here - a lot, frankly", to check if redrection is needed.
Going through the main jurisdictions and classifying them according the the criteria on the new page. The PWC website will be a good source. AndyJones 13:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Start Class?

IMO it gives the wrong impression to classify this page as Start Class but High Priority, when other more substantive pages (such as Inheritance tax (United Kingdom)) get lower priorities. As our discussions show (see specifically the discussion I've copied in its entirety above), this page is intended, in effect, to be a DAB, not a substantive article in its own right. AndyJones 18:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can change it if you feel it has been incorrectly rated - I just ask that you use the projects criteria. While overly bulleted, it didn't look like a stub at first glance. As far as priority, inheritance tax in general is a global term and taxing method that gathers greater importance to the project. I classified it as an "Important international tax concept" but perhaps it is just a "notable international concept", which would make it a Mid priority. Perhaps this should be a full fledged article, I don't see why it shouldn't. I disagree with the decision above that it should be a disambig. Disambig pages are for terms that have multiple meanings or confusion on the article desired and to point you in the correct direction. This should be a generic article with summary style sections for each sub article. Morphh ^(talk) 19:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, actually, I can see that that would work. And yes I agree that Inheritance Tax is an "important international tax concept". I'll give your ideas some more thought. AndyJones 21:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Erbschaftssteuer BRD 2008 Erbschaftssteuer BRD 2009

Grundsätzlich gilt:Erbschaftssteuer muss jeder Zahlen der die letzten 5 Jahre ein oder mehrere Bankkonten in Deutschland hat (Rueckwirkungsprinzip 2008 bis 1.1. 2004.)

Muessen jetzt alle 800.000 Todesfaelle (2004 bis 2008 4.000.000 Todesfaelle) ihre Bankkonten bei Deutschen Banken in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland kuendigen rueckwirkend zum 1.1.2004? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.193.11 (talk) 12:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References for State-level estate taxes.

I recently removed some incomplete references. After a bit of browsing I wonder if the intended link was this one?:

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/ss/ssfedetax.htm

I don't have time to check it through today, though, I'm afraid. I'm now off Wikipedia (possibly until next weekend) so if someone else wants to take a look...? AndyJones (talk) 10:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

modified dab?

I'm unclear about the purpose of this tag. I don't see how this is a disambiguation page at all: it explains what an inheritance tax is, and gives a list of examples—but as far as I can see none is a linked to a specialized article on a form of inheritance tax. If anything, it's a list article, not a dab. Cynwolfe (talk) 12:57, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

Consensus at the Reference desk seems to be that inheritance tax and succession duty are one and the same, so merging the two articles seems sensible. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Calling the inheritance tax a succession duty is a silly way to confuse people about the topic. What next? Do you wish to merge the automobile page with the horseless buggy page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lance Friedman (talk • contribs) 02:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you not agree that inheritance tax and succession duty are the same thing? Consensus at the Reference desk two months ago suggested otherwise. (We don't seem to currently have an article on a horseless buggy.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

United States section needs cleanup

The current section on United States lacks any references (including no source to support the Supreme Court decision it mentions) and does not seem to make sense, as it proposes the following multipliers by estate size:
$25,000-$100,000 - 11x
$100,000-$200,000 - 2x
$200,000-$500,000 - missing/not mentioned
$500,000-$1,000,000 - 21x
$1,000,000+ - 3x
If this section can't be improved and sourced, it should probably just be deleted except for the link to the US-specific article. 72.83.42.219 (talk) 13:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Inheritance tax

With references to the PNDC LAW 111, inheritance in Ghana is similar to the UK inheritance law Ghanalaw1 (talk) 11:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you cite a reliable source WP:RS?

Confusing numbers

"On those over that value, the rate was multiplied 11 times on estates up to $100,000, twofold on those from $100,000 to $200,000, 21 times on those from $500,000 to a $1 million, and threefold for those exceeding a million." - Are there some decimal points missing??? --Janke | Talk 10:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Seemed political hijacking of page

The economic effects page is clearly one-sided, with no real qualifications and straight statements. The main (aside from good will grammar and citation edits) contributor is a single person who seems to have made edits to their section of this page as their sole edits. I have removed this section until better context and balance is provided, and certain statements are removed. Please feel free to reinstate it or discuss below. I am relatively new and not sure if this is within what I can do, so please do revert it if it is not allowed. EPEAviator (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Place of payment and applicable jurisdiction

The inheritance tax is paid where the property is located or where the dead or the heir lives or according to the citizenship of either of them? --95.24.70.237 (talk) 13:51, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. Check first if the two jurisdictions involved have a double taxation agreement between themselves. If so, that will have tiebreaker clauses to settle the point. Or if tax is payable in both there may be double taxation relief available in one or the other. But there's no point asking for legal advice or tax advice at Wikipedia. Partly because we don't give it but also because it's so unlikely that anyone here will be a specialist in both jurisdictions you're worried about. AndyJones (talk) 12:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]