Talk:Hudson Volcano
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Aerosols
[edit]From what I understand, sulfur dioxide is a gas and as such can not be an aerosol. If this is true, the phrase "sulfur dioxide and other aerosols" suggests the wrong thing. 21:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Not only is it a gas; I'm not sure it is particularly soluble in water, nor can it turn into sulphuric acid without a lot of laboratory work. (No that that error was made in this article) Furthermore it is unwise to speculate on the properties of any chemical affect on the ozone after a volcanic eruption until we know more about the process. (I gather an increase in the water content during the SSW (that I believe always occur with eruptions) merely adds to the scarcity of ozone at the poles in the season. Measurement was extremely suspect at that time and certainly any comparison with data until the 1983 satellite data fiasco was resolved can not be accepted.
Weatherlawyer (talk) 20:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Hudson
[edit]Who was the Hudson for which the volcano was named? --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
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On the 1991 eruption
[edit]I've compiled sources that can be used to write an article on the 1991 eruption[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10106049209354367 ][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34], but in this article I've minimized the coverage as the article is about the volcano in general not just its historic eruptions. And the H1 eruption in the Holocene probably was far more significant than the 1991 one, anyway. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Going to ask for second opinions on this POV balance tomorrow. JoJo Eumerus mobile (main talk) 21:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Given that this article is about the volcano in general and that it has 4,000+ words of readable prose I would suggest creating a separate article for the 1991 eruption. I also think expanding the content about the 1991 eruption in this article might meet WP:UNDUE since there have been more significant eruptions at Mount Hudson earlier in the Holocene. Volcanoguy 20:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Agree with Volcanoguy. ceranthor 21:00, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Given that this article is about the volcano in general and that it has 4,000+ words of readable prose I would suggest creating a separate article for the 1991 eruption. I also think expanding the content about the 1991 eruption in this article might meet WP:UNDUE since there have been more significant eruptions at Mount Hudson earlier in the Holocene. Volcanoguy 20:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
For H1 eruption
[edit]"CARLOS ASCHERO; DAMIAN BOZZUTO; MARÍA TERESA CIVALERO; MARIANA DE NIGRIS; NATALIA FERNÁNDEZ; NICOLAS MAVEROFF; MARIANA SACCHI Se nos viene la noche. el volcán Hudson y su influencia en el NO de Santa Cruz: integrando perspectivas arqueológicas. Arqueología de la Patagonia: el pasado en las arenas. Lugar: Puerto Madryn; Año: 2019; p. 239 - 249" is accessible via ResearchGate. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Outdated source on appearance
[edit]"Cevo C., J. (1). MANIFESTACIONES VOLCANICAS EN AYSEN (CHILE) ENTRE 1971 Y 1973. Revista Geográfica De América Central, 1(1), 51-74. Recuperado a partir de https://www.revistas.una.ac.cr/index.php/geografica/article/view/2053" may be useful to describe an outdated view on how the volcano looks. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Bruxton (talk · contribs) 21:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- I am happy to review this article. I do enjoy articles on Geography. Bruxton (talk) 21:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Earwig 8.8% only alerts to long titles.
Geography and geomorphology - it is a difficult check for me because of the language and need to machine translate the foreign language sources. The citations I could check in this section were accurate.
- I've seen a recommendation to use this translator, as it's less likely to wank up the syntax than Google Translate. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Geology "The crust under the volcano is about 30 kilometres (19 mi) thick" Not finding this in the citation #41. Other sources that I spot checked are good.
Hudson volcano has developed on *30-km-thick crust
Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Composition and magma plumbing system citations check out
Climate and vegetation citations check out
Eruption history - spot checked - citations check out
Holocene - spot checked -citations check out
Significant eruptions and recent activity - spot checked -citations check out
H0 eruption: 17,300-17,440 BP - spot checked - citations check out
H1 eruption: 7750 BP - spot checked - citations check out
Impact on Tierra del Fuego - spot checked - citations check out
H2 eruption: 4200 BP Is the first sentence is WP:OVERCITEed? Also should we follow MOS:SPELL09? If so the number 6 should be "six"? I have not checked the rest of the article for 0-9 numbers which are not spelled.
- I don't remember why all these citations, but the information in the sentence comes from different sources. I've spelled out six there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
H3 eruption: 1991 AD - spot checked - citations check out
Intercontinental spread of ash - spot checked - citations check out
Other historical activity - spot checked - citations check out
Hazards - spot checked - citations check out
Comments
[edit]- @Jo-Jo Eumerus:, I am sure the article took an enormous amount of time. It is comprehensive and I have not been able to access certain references but I can AGF. You have brought it from this 678 word article to a 4445 word article. You have an impressive body of work. I think we can wrap this up when you have a look at my final concerns. Bruxton (talk) 01:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 04:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Mount Hudson volcano repeatedly depopulated parts of South America?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Run (meme)
- Comment: Note that this should be attributed to my main account, Jo-Jo Eumerus
Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Nominated by JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) at 07:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mount Hudson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
This is ready for DYK. The article is WORTHY, and the fact itself fills the purposes outlined in WP:DYK. As such in my opinion this would be a fine selection for DYK. -Samoht27 22:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Added a QPQ. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 16 May 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. to Hudson Volcano. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Mount Hudson → ? – As noted in the featured article candidacy, "Mount Hudson" doesn't appear to be the most common name for the volcano. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:07, 16 May 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 09:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you were the person who stated that in the FAC. There was certainly no agreement about it. However, I agree that User:Hog Farm indicated that the question of whether or not to move it should be resolved after the close of the FAC, so why don't you present your reasons why you think it ought to be moved? For example, what do the most authoritative sources say? -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Global Volcanism Program has "Cerro Hudson". Google Scholar for Cerro Hudson, Mount Hudson and Mt Hudson but with lots of false positives. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Based on what I looked over during the FAC, either Hudson Volcano or Cerro Hudson seem preferable to the present title; "Mount Hudson" has much less usage than those two, even in the sources cited in the article. Hog Farm Talk 16:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Global Volcanism Program has "Cerro Hudson". Google Scholar for Cerro Hudson, Mount Hudson and Mt Hudson but with lots of false positives. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: There appears to be agreement for a move, but to what title? Polyamorph (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- This has to go somewhere, Hudson Volcano seems to be somewhat more prevalent based on my rudimentary searches. Hog Farm Talk 13:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]How is it pronounced? Like the river in New York? Marnanel (talk) 10:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- No idea, sorry. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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